March 1, 2009 at 16:07Feelings of the Web are still far away, but ChuvstoHabr is already possible ...
In the previous topic of Feelings and Habr, I raised the question of whether feelings are a characteristic of information that is not inferior to meaning, and that we use in cognition everyday. Also in the topic there was a question of how you feel looking at this picture ( see the previous topic ).
As a result of a small study, it turned out:
Look carefully at the result, as you see the feelings that arose among the readers, or rather, the image watchers, turned out to be completely different. On the other hand, the Yandex search engine finds this picture, only at the request of the academic direction.
And again the question arises, and so what?
See, despite the fact that this picture (feelings for it) was associated with images other than the words Academic direction, it (the picture) cannot be found in Yandex, for other requests.
At the same time, if we try to search for images according to the words: horror, hunger, desire of cognac, nostalgia of the artist or the gloom of a techie (let us call it Bouquet of Feelings for simplicity). We can find (if possible) only some photographs (not pictures), the meaning of which is clear enough for us, but their finding is not related to the processing capabilities of the image content, but only to the names assigned by the authors (or those who posted the picture).
From this it follows that search engines take into account only the name of the sample. but do not take into account expert assessments since there simply is nowhere to come from.
Imagine now that we get a sufficient number of sensory characteristics for a given object (Bouquet), now the content of the object becomes not so important (in the concept of cognition, as changes in the degree of uncertainty), associations are important. those. a peculiar convolution of the object into this Bouquet of Feelings will occur.
But how, you ask, can you go through without understanding the Madonna of Raphael to understand what is the point?
Yes and no.
The question is not in the search for all images, but in the search for the most appropriate ones. No one is depriving you of the opportunity to independently see some object.
You’ve never been tormented by the thought, you are watching a movie, there is no doubt interesting, but this is an old song in a new way ...
Ie from the perspective of changing the degree of uncertainty, obtaining new information, it is empty ...
those. there is no connection between the amount of text, meters of film or the length of speech and Information - and why?
As I said earlier, we think in images, if we don’t have such an image, we create it (this is the value), and if there is, we simply restore it. At the same time, without feelings, the description is devoid of global meaning.
How to understand this?
See why you are doing this or that work, write a post, a program, dig a garden ... one outcome to experience feelings - satiety, satisfaction, joy, etc. .... and now imagine, remove all this, why do you need work, why do you need money why life? In the center of everything lies a test of feelings, the second aspect of thought - I will consider in another topic.
If it would be possible to ask for a Bouquet of feelings, like a search query for relevant texts, and get the result ... and feel ...
I’ll give an example of a convolution: Stalin, references, 1945,
Example: fear of a person, grief for the loss of loved ones, pride in victory in a war
Which of these description carries more information in a global sense, gives more images?
In the last topic, I raised the question of porn, as the only representative of the senses (albeit the lowest category), did you ever wonder how it works? This feeling is most simply described and understood at the physiological level, in fact, each given Image is folded into just one feeling - an orgasm, carnal passion (try searching in the search engine).
And in the end, why do we need a search for feelings. As I already said, images give rise to feelings, respectively, solving the problem of searching by feelings, you can approach the solution of the problem of searching for images, and measuring the amount of information. And if you go even further, this leads to the transmission of feelings at a distance, but that's another story ...
As a result of a small study, it turned out:
Look carefully at the result, as you see the feelings that arose among the readers, or rather, the image watchers, turned out to be completely different. On the other hand, the Yandex search engine finds this picture, only at the request of the academic direction.
And again the question arises, and so what?
See, despite the fact that this picture (feelings for it) was associated with images other than the words Academic direction, it (the picture) cannot be found in Yandex, for other requests.
At the same time, if we try to search for images according to the words: horror, hunger, desire of cognac, nostalgia of the artist or the gloom of a techie (let us call it Bouquet of Feelings for simplicity). We can find (if possible) only some photographs (not pictures), the meaning of which is clear enough for us, but their finding is not related to the processing capabilities of the image content, but only to the names assigned by the authors (or those who posted the picture).
From this it follows that search engines take into account only the name of the sample. but do not take into account expert assessments since there simply is nowhere to come from.
Imagine now that we get a sufficient number of sensory characteristics for a given object (Bouquet), now the content of the object becomes not so important (in the concept of cognition, as changes in the degree of uncertainty), associations are important. those. a peculiar convolution of the object into this Bouquet of Feelings will occur.
But how, you ask, can you go through without understanding the Madonna of Raphael to understand what is the point?
Yes and no.
The question is not in the search for all images, but in the search for the most appropriate ones. No one is depriving you of the opportunity to independently see some object.
You’ve never been tormented by the thought, you are watching a movie, there is no doubt interesting, but this is an old song in a new way ...
Ie from the perspective of changing the degree of uncertainty, obtaining new information, it is empty ...
those. there is no connection between the amount of text, meters of film or the length of speech and Information - and why?
As I said earlier, we think in images, if we don’t have such an image, we create it (this is the value), and if there is, we simply restore it. At the same time, without feelings, the description is devoid of global meaning.
How to understand this?
See why you are doing this or that work, write a post, a program, dig a garden ... one outcome to experience feelings - satiety, satisfaction, joy, etc. .... and now imagine, remove all this, why do you need work, why do you need money why life? In the center of everything lies a test of feelings, the second aspect of thought - I will consider in another topic.
If it would be possible to ask for a Bouquet of feelings, like a search query for relevant texts, and get the result ... and feel ...
I’ll give an example of a convolution: Stalin, references, 1945,
Example: fear of a person, grief for the loss of loved ones, pride in victory in a war
Which of these description carries more information in a global sense, gives more images?
In the last topic, I raised the question of porn, as the only representative of the senses (albeit the lowest category), did you ever wonder how it works? This feeling is most simply described and understood at the physiological level, in fact, each given Image is folded into just one feeling - an orgasm, carnal passion (try searching in the search engine).
And in the end, why do we need a search for feelings. As I already said, images give rise to feelings, respectively, solving the problem of searching by feelings, you can approach the solution of the problem of searching for images, and measuring the amount of information. And if you go even further, this leads to the transmission of feelings at a distance, but that's another story ...