Interviews with people not without whose participation WAP has become what it is

    In addition to the chapter on the history of ru WAP , I interviewed three people who, before their eyes and not without participation, WAP became what it is now.
    So, I introduce the interviewees:


    Interview with SC.ru founder - DeeSee


    [rk]: How did you meet WAP?
    DeeSee: In fact, operators with launching GPRS for test operation opened up a massive road to wap (GPRS was free for several months) ...
    DeeSee: just at the time of launching test operation in MTS, I got a phone with GPRS support ...
    DeeSee: it’s a sin not to use a
    freebie :) DeeSee: that’s how I got acquainted with vap ...
    [rk]: do you remember the first site you got on?
    DeeSee: operator, like all
    DeeSee: then there were "battles" of operators ...
    subscribers of Beeline and MTS sat on each site ...
    DeeSee: access was blocked ...
    [rk]:that is, initially you used only the services of OpSoS, but in fact there was no information (or in general) of other sites?
    DeeSee: there were several sites in ruwap, such as: wap.rbk.ru, wap.lenta.ru
    DeeSee: only some of the largest had similar versions ... essentially like RSS ... broadcasting news in vap ...
    DeeSee: but there were no private sites ...
    [rk]: What services did the operators provide, which ones were popular and which ones did you use?
    DeeSee: there were standard services: weather forecasts, TV programs, news and more ... there was a chat for communication, where actually the communication of the happy owners of phones with GPRS
    DeeSee took place:there they exchanged links, searched together for downloads for phones and scheduled weekly chat meetings ... the audience was 95% Moscow and Moscow region
    [rk]: When did the first “amateur” sites begin to appear?
    DeeSee:well, this again was a flow from the chat ... everyone was tired of exchanging links, they began to look for ways to create websites ... at that time few understood what the creation of a wap site was ... they looked for the so-called site designers ... tagtag.com was found, on it actually and sites began to appear ... Sites were in transliteration, Russian letters were a rarity for wap ... Both of them were more actively developed by the others of the same chat visitors - Mypuk ... then they began to learn what utf-8 and free hosting like nm.ru were ... but none the same for wap is not a program dug: who knew how - laughed at the "small" sites, and who wanted - didn’t know how ... because communication was also limited on these sites ... six months later, the first sites began to appear with some own services, rather than links to third-party resources ...
    [rk ]:when did you decide to organize your first WAP site and what was (is) the site?
    DeeSee: the “oldies” had a single circle of contacts, everyone was seized by the fever of creating sites ... as a rule, sites were made for their phone model ... I had Siemens ... a lot of pictures, melodies and other things accumulated in the wap ... well versed in the intricacies of compatibility content for mobile phones ... decided that in vain the knowledge does not disappear, you need to create a website. Actually on such enthusiasm the wap-site (wap.siemens-club.ru) was born ... It was distinguished by a large volume of downloads for all Siemens models ... Because siemens had the most convenient wap browsers, their significant superiority in number was logical ... People reached out ...
    [rk]: As I recall, it was around 2002?
    DeeSee:yes, I think 2002 or 2003 ...
    DeeSee: probably 2003
    DeeSee: the first half of 2003 - a fever for creating personal sites ...
    [rk]: Was there any difficulty in creating the site, any specific problems regarding wap browsers?
    DeeSee: yes, there were many of them ...
    DeeSee: in addition to the specifics of wml itself, the browsers themselves also had features ...
    let's say it was impossible to create <input> inside the <small> tag ...
    browsers cached the data entered into the fields ...
    DeeSee: and so on ...
    [ rk]: did you have a connection and does it directly have a wap Siemens club with siemens-club.ru?
    DeeSee:the development teams of vap and web sites were different ... but at the moment a new version is already cohesively created and the current one is supported ...
    [rk]: it’s clear when the first popularity came and is it true that the site owes its popularity to “protest” against the introduction of a beeline payment for the Internet?
    DeeSee: hard to judge because of this or not ...
    the site has grown steadily in traffic throughout. everyday. and at the time when the action was planned, ours already occupied a worthy place among similar ones ... the action really attracted attention to the site itself, but I deserved to be popular, I think its individuality ... at that time, the most advanced novelties were provided for owners of siemens ... the same wav-ki on a call ... now everyone has mp3 in the phone, and then they counted the number of voices in polyphony, realton was a breakthrough, and only we actively created them ...
    [rk]: Did you do everything alone or did your partners appear?
    DeeSee: initially there was a small team ... I was always an ideologist and enthusiasm :) I didn’t stand still, I constantly came up with all sorts of chips to make it convenient for people ...
    [rk]:it is clear, with the growth of popularity, new ones were probably required. power - the site at that time already paid for them?
    DeeSee: no ... the situation was difficult ... the wap project created huge loads on the shared server (wap + web) ... because the web was in a higher priority, they even thought of somehow cutting back the site to reduce the load ... wap specifics - mostly download content, undead communicate ... until we found out what nginx is, the content was delivered through apache, and since download speed via GPRS was small - several KB, there were so many hanging processes that the RAM was consumed instantly ... the traffic per day was more than 500GB ... nginx saved us, they also dropped off on their own money and bought servers ...
    [rk]:It is clear how the idea came up to create a “blacksmith of talent of RuVAP” - the Siemens Club forum and why exactly the sc.ru forum became this very blacksmith?
    DeeSee:as I wrote above - I was looking for some new directions in vapa ... at that time I was actively interested in the topic of flashing Siemens, writing patches, porting them and so on ... by the way, the main patch masters just sat on the web forum of our site ... decided that It’s worth trying to illuminate the vap audience with all the possibilities of their Siemens ... and since there is no better place than a forum for discussion, I took up the creation of a wap forum directly ... and so my acquaintance with php happened ... within a couple of months taking the popular web engine as a basis, rewrote and adapted it for wap ... further "active" visitors to the file, flooded into the forum, and communication started ... together with the abuses of visitors the forum was brought to a really convenient means of communication ... people liked it - they pulled themselves up and became known to their forum ...
    [rk]:however, you didn’t stop on s-c.ru - sp-c.ru appeared, what can you tell about him?
    DeeSee: when Siemens began to “bend” ... the Benq mobile phone division was approaching ... began to look for other directions ... for me the only interesting option was Symbian-based smartphones ... SX1 was bought and it went off ...
    DeeSee: ... creating a website for smartphones ...
    [rk]: ok, now let's get a little off of your projects.
    [rk]:How did the introduction of monetization of projects influence their popularity, was there an outflow of visitors? (I gave a sufficiently large number of people the address sk and from half received the message “everything is paid there, I searched and found nothing” and only showing them that they were downloads, and here it is a forum, they became “members of the club”)
    DeeSee : there was no outflow, just as you friends brought your acquaintances, and with an increase in the overall vap audience, the project continued to grow and remain in the lead ...
    [rk]:you probably kept statistics on visits — were there any peaks and, on the contrary, drops in attendance, at what events did they occur (did the same introduction of gprs payment somehow influence?), if we consider the general “schedule” of attendance. starting from the moment of its creation - now the project (s) is becoming more popular / stable or is there a noticeable decline in activity?
    DeeSee: after the introduction of traffic charges, there was an outflow of visitors to the Moscow region ... but at the same time, GPRS was introduced into test operation in other regions at the same time ... and the story was repeated, only with other regions ...
    every month, the vap audience grew ... accordingly, our project as a whole grew, although, perhaps, after the news of the sale of Siemens, it was not so active ... and then the number of Siemens dropped, interest naturally fell ... the forum attracted with its uniqueness which gathered up to 500 users online ...
    [rk]: Since the advent of WAP, there is an opinion that WAP is a stillborn child, as many respected people say so, your opinion on this matter?
    DeeSee: the view of developers of large web projects is probably understandable:
    there are so many possibilities on the web, you can offer such a variety to the user: you want a flash site, you want web 2.0, and against this background, a wap with such meager capabilities ...
    If you mean wap markup language - wml, then yes, it really has already died, the progress of mobile devices has been too great lately, there is no point in it ...
    If by wap you mean a site for mobile devices such as a phone, then call it stillborn heavy…
    It develops like the web, if you do not take hypertext markup into account, then for a long time large-scale vap projects have used the same technologies as on the web ... the same loads, also data caching ... and this is not casual, not from the boredom of vap developers, but from necessity, as the audience of mobile Internet continues to grow ... the majority has a mobile phone at hand, but there is no laptop in their pocket ... everything else was caused by content operators, with their SMS services via central channels and in the press, as a rule, you had to go to download in vap ...
    [rk]: And probably the last question: how do you see vap in the future, well, for example, after 5 years, and how do you imagine the siemens club and sp-c in the same future?
    DeeSee:weak wap players will die and large ones from the web will come (perhaps those who called it “stillborn”) ...
    wap and web will already live together ... i.e. vap can be called a light version of the site ...
    DeeSee: there are no bets on c-k and c-k, there are bets on other projects for which I have accumulated a lot of knowledge over the past couple of years on the web ... you need to get ahead of time;)
    [rk]: Well, let's wait until you hit again and win the wap audience. Thank you for answering the questions. :)
    DeeSee: Not at all, it was nice to remember the past :)

    This interview was conducted a couple of days before the forum.sc.ru engine was combined with waper.ru , so we talked again, on a “set topic”

    [rk ]:Tell us briefly about the events that took place on the sc.ru DeeSee
    forum: The site has long been in need of change ...
    The site’s audience has been falling, the site’s theme is unfortunately no longer relevant at present ...
    To revitalize the site it needs to be done quite qualitatively and needs to be redone a lot ...
    It’s quite difficult for one person to implement .
    It was decided to combine the efforts of sc.ru and waper.ru developers on a common engine (please pay attention that this is a common engine, not a common site) ...
    From this engine, ck will receive further development of the popular forum and downloads on the site, vaper - communication among active visitors, dating and more ...
    The first thing we decided to start the unification of was the forum, as the most important component of the site ...
    [rk]:At what stage is the forum unification now - is everything planned that has been done or is there something in the process / plans?
    DeeSee: After moving to a new engine, the forum’s functionality was limited to the functionality of the vaper.ru forum ...
    Accordingly, work is now underway to restore the functionality of the old forum already on the new engine ...
    Visitors could already notice a number of convenient innovations.
    Another fairly large list of functionality that we would like to introduce on the forum is now working on this.
    [rk]: Some users (including some moderators) believe that the combination of "university with kindergarten" was made; Some people left the forum altogether, others opened their "old school" sc forum. How can you comment on this?
    DeeSee:There is a certain contingent of visitors who provoke visitors to the wrong actions. For example, some are trying to quietly lure visitors to their site. There are not many of these people, but they are extremely active in the forum, and are fueling the situation.
    Obviously, after moving to a new engine, the audience united. There is nothing wrong with that. Nobody forces anyone in other minesweeper forums.
    Later, the ck forum will already look like a separate component of the site, and not one of the communities. With its visitors and design. We will position that as the main technical forum.
    Functionality will be similar.
    My advice to visitors sk - stay loyal to sk and communicate as before, do not go on about unscrupulous users!
    I repeat that all the requests of visitors have been heard and are already being implemented.
    [rk]: You said that no one forces users of k-k to participate in the life of other communities, but now (as far as I know) users of the wiper itself are automatically added to the "Siemens-Club community", as is the case with this now ?
    DeeSee: Automatically do not add anyone ... Add only those visitors who decided to chat on the forum sk
    [rk]: You said that the forum is planned to be made a “main technical forum”, that is, in the end the name Siemens Club will lose the first part of its name?
    DeeSee: not really ...
    it will be called SC ...
    just when entering through sc.ru - as there was a forum with
    When entering through waper.ru - technical forum
    [rk]: Can you share plans for further integration of the engine?
    DeeSee: there’s no reason to run far ahead ... and the nearest one is an improvement in the interface for communication in the forum, as well as some functionality for searching for downloaded files on the
    DeeSee forum : the rest of the changes are global and new for WAP in general, so I won't say anything about them.
    [rk]: And probably now the most provocative question: who is now at the helm of the wap Siemens club?
    DeeSee: Everything is as before ... We are both engaged . I’m more on s-c, Sergey on vaper.
    [rk]: Is there a significant influx of vaper users into the siemens club And are the opinions that the "girls" flooded are true?
    DeeSee: I did not have time to deeply analyze this issue. But he definitely noticed the transformation in the "girls" of some visitors to the building.
    [rk]: What do you want to say to users for whom the fate of sc is not indifferent?
    DeeSee: Continue to chat on the forum as before. Everything necessary for this is now available. What is lacking will appear.
    DeeSee: ... and don’t pay attention to people who interfere with communication, click the "complain" button))
    [rk]: Thanks for the second interview, it was nice to talk :)

    Interview with unnamed777


    [rk]: How and when did you learn about WAP?
    unnamed777: Naturally, I learned from the operator’s site, and was very upset that it couldn’t be viewed on my current phone, however, a wap-site emulator was found on the Web, through which I visited sites for some time, but didn’t find anything interesting . And the first exit from the phone took place on the day of the purchase of the new body - August 7, 2004
    unnamed777: The operator’s site, wap.megafonsib.ru, can be considered the first website. Having walked around the site a bit, I got to the wap.pslink.ru search engine. From it I went to the first site with downloads - mypuk.ru
    unnamed777:And right on the same site I realized that the links in the header of the "Download for free" site always lead to content providers sites. Back then, the sites didn’t really try to make money, so it was possible to go on them with pleasure - no “** with a horse”, “xxx game - a creeping member”. These were really good sites
    [rk]: When did you want to participate in the construction of WAP yourself?
    unnamed777:About a week later, when I wanted to upload my wallpaper to the phone, but there was no data cable yet. I began to wonder how you can create your site. If I don’t name memory, I didn’t find any domestic designers then, but I came across one pretty popular mywap.o2.co.uk, on which I could make a wap site in transliteration. But after registration, I realized that there was nothing to be done there and scored. The second time the desire came when I realized that the teachers in the Lyceum in the test work allow you to use the phones as calculators. It was decided to create pages with spurs on the basis of analysis and geometry.
    unnamed777:Since I did not know what wml was yet, but I knew what html was (the level was limited only by the main tags), then I downloaded several wap pages from wap.mypuk.ru, wap.siemens-club.ru and wap. ngs.ru. The study of the markup structure wml
    unnamed777 began with them : Two weeks later a small site wapshpora.nm.ru was born, the address of which was distributed among classmates (in the lyceum we had just groups, not classes), which they successfully used. It was then that I learned that not every wap site can normally open on the phone. Here, it seems to me, from that moment my life in wap
    [rk] began: And at that time what sites did you use, or rather which services did you prefer?
    unnamed777:Actually, there weren’t any services at that time. Sites were either home pages or downloads. I always downloaded only on one site - wap.siemens-club.ru, because there was always a lot of content and there was a search on this content, which was very rare in those days
    [rk]: As I understand it, you had was siemens?
    unnamed777: Yes
    [rk]: When you got to the sc forum, what was / is / will be for the resource for you, what do you have to do with it ... in general, all about the forum, what do you know tell
    unnamed777:I registered on it on February 27, 2005, walked around the sections a bit and left. Why - I don’t know, maybe this venture seemed futile. The first post was left there only in September of the same year, when I unsuccessfully patched my already new Siemens CX70 and no rollback to backup, when flashing it could not restore the body. I could not get an answer, but that very night I made my own pet. Then I realized that I myself could somehow help other forum participants and began to sit in the Siemens xx65 section. And in the first week or two I got three pluses for the answers. Sometime in November, I decided to see a list of other existing forums. And to my surprise, I found the WAP-resources forum, which at that time was an ideal forum. All told each other, helped. There was no special advertising of their shitsites with invitations without fail to visit this particular site and register on it. Clear questions, clear answers, interesting topics in which you can always wedge into someone’s discussion and contribute.
    [rk]: How did you become a moderator, was this `work` heavily loaded, it is on a“ voluntary basis, ”as I understand it — do you plan to help another forum in the future?
    unnamed777: I sat in this section only as a help, I never asked any questions myself. Before my eyes, the forum was growing up. When I first read the topics, they practically had no questions about programming, there were questions about services \ features \ markup. Gradually, the contingent began to grow up, questions began to appear on programming - on php.
    unnamed777:Since I was the most, so to speak, seasoned wap programmer (at that time I was the co-administrator of a large wap site), they listened to me, constantly asked, consulted as a specialist. But when I was tired of answering the same questions, I wrote a FAQ on the basics of PHP, according to which later many began their study of the php language.
    unnamed777:In this fact, they poked forgivenesses, a lot of people used it, they even downloaded it to a separate file, transferred it to a friend, posted on other sites and said thanks to me :-) In general, it seems to me that I can consider myself one of the “teachers” of ruvap - I didn’t know in a wap a larger forum where wap- (programmers | developers) would sit (I really do not like the word wap-master). In February-March 2006, I was appointed the moderator of the Vap-Resource forum, and I continued its development not only as a carrier of useful information, but also as a “forest orderly”.
    unnamed777:In 2008 (or 2007, I don’t remember anymore), programming separated from vap resources into a separate forum, and a little later, when the administration changed, another restructuring took place. As a result, Web Resources and Web Programming came out of one small Vap Resources forum. Unfortunately, due to organizational mistakes of the new administration, the Vap-Resources forum has become a garbage dump, but this is a completely different topic.
    [rk]: How do you feel about the current fundamental changes in the forum - “engine change” in the form of data transfer to social. waper.ru network as I understand you do not like?
    unnamed777:Naturally. Making a generalized quote from the feedback of all the moderators of the forum, the whole situation can be described as follows - the technical forum was crossed with a kindergarten and made it "haw." Quotes from the moderators and my full and non-journalistic opinion can be seen on my personal blog. When porting, we were not even warned that we would fall into this, it was simply said "There will be a move, the forum will be temporarily unavailable." As a result, our authority as moderators was undermined, as users believe that all of this was planned by us and we were silent, and the authority of the administration itself, which arranged this. Of course, the forum needed development, because for some time it just stood still with all its bugs. But not so cardinal. Users must be respected, not treated indifferently. Although in the closed section there is information from the administration (including from DeeSee himself - the father of the SC forum), that after a while everything will fall into place. But what will it be - an isolated forum with an old design or a more familiar atmosphere, but in the kindergarten team - time will tell
    [rk]: You mentioned that you were the admin of one of the sites you visited - what was / is this site, what role did you play on it?
    unnamed777:It was wup.ru. I got into it by accident, answering questions on the wml of its creator in the local forum. Then the site also had a different domain (or rather, the hoster's subdomain) and it just opened. My role there is a programmer. At first, the rules of others were free, then, when I gained experience, I began to write my own, which were sold to other, friendly sites. My most popular script was news with comments and an assessment of the news itself (I ask you not to compare wap and web - these are two completely different communities), which a year and a half or two years ago stood at a percentage of 70% of wap sites created not on designers. Someone bought them, someone did not buy, of which there were most. Not everyone knows who was their author and on which site they originally appeared. In the summer of 2007, I decided to leave the project because of disagreements with its owner. Gradually the site was dying and now it just costs a paid redirect to another strawberry. Now I take part in the development of two wap sites, one of which can be called highly visited, and the second, perhaps soon, will become one :-)
    [rk]: Back to the beginning of your career as a WAP programmer
    [rk]: were there any problems specific only to WAP? Tell them briefly.
    unnamed777: Yes. Because long ago , when dinosaurs lived on the streetsPhones accessed wap only with the help of wap-gates - special gateways that compiled pages into a format that the phone understood, it was necessary to write valid markup. In RuNet there was still no information about markup rules, specifications, etc., for some reason I did not think to look into foreign sources (I was 16 at that time, I did not know English well). I had to alternately delete all the code on the page and constantly open it on the phone in order to check the operability (if the page was invalid, the gateway could not compile it, and no one had ever heard of validators - surely everyone saw a 502 gateway error on OpenWave browsers or the like on other browsers). There were also specific bugs - and gates, and phones. What costs only a bug of 55-65 series of siemens with redirecting header ('Location'
    unnamed777: Yes, and creating a website in itself was difficult then - you had to understand what you were doing, and not like now - go to the free scripts site, take a script, go to a popular site - take the design. And that’s it - the site is ready
    [rk]: If now we move away from your projects and look at wap in general - what did it look like before, what is it now and what do you think is its future?
    unnamed777:In 2003-2005, wap was a place where you could only get downloads to your phone - ringtones, pictures. Around 2005, various services began to gain popularity - chats, guestbooks, news, stories (libraries). Around the same time, the popularization of paid content began - on every site in the header you could certainly see a link to buy content. Vap began to turn from amateur to commercial business. The first wap2.0 sites began to appear - colored sites with html tags. When browsers began to work directly with servers without gates, only the lazy did not make sites, because any specific knowledge was no longer required. Now vap is money for site owners and ample opportunities, often paid, for visitors. This is a serious business, which is now difficult to get into, but easy to fly out of.
    unnamed777:As for the future, then the wap, which he thought, is actually not. Now it’s much more correct to call the site mobile, rather than wap. It is not difficult to predict further development - the mobile Internet will gradually mix with the usual. The difference will only be in layout and client applications - the faster and cheaper mobile traffic will be, the more powerful and more convenient mobile terminals will be, the mobile site will look more like a website. If you look at wap from the point of view of the owner of a profitable portal, it seems to me that now it’s worth developing commercial services, and not just filling the site with content and placing links to content providers or alarms (Java applications presented as some kind of a game, but actually a midlet, which, when launched, sends a bunch of text messages with orders to numbers of content providers - a very fast, but very ugly way to make money on the site). For example, subscription sweat videos, browser games, any other services whose ideas can be borrowed from the web
    [rk]: Since we have touched on the topic of content providers and earnings many times,
    1) How do you feel about the emergence of a large number of SMS content providers
    2) How do you feel about the development of wap-traffic buying / selling services and services that allow it wind them up?
    3) What awaits them all in the future?
    unnamed777:Choice is always good. Someone offers a larger commission for buying games from Russian operators, someone gives more for buying tunes from Ukrainian. The more competition, the content providers make the “tastier” collaboration - bonuses, benefits in payments, service. They have a future - they will stop buying content, services will be sold. There is always something that you can sell to the user :-) But this can not be said about the sale of traffic. It is beneficial only to the owners of such sites and to the helpers - the first because the money goes effortlessly, the second ... Actually, the same thing :-) To the site owner who wants to get an audience of visitors, it is much more reliable to buy ads on the visited site of the required subject or clicks in banner exchange systems, although it will be more expensive than banal buying traffic. I guess
    unnamed777: And of course, I have a negative attitude to any wrapping services. Would you be nice if you bought a liter package of milk, and after payment it turned out that there was only half a liter? Given that you are not selling this milk, of course :-)
    [rk]: What can you say goodbye to our reader, a potential WAP developer?
    unnamed777: Well, don’t create a govnosite, huh? If you want to make a website for money, then first prepare this money, and then the site. Without decent investments, none of this will come of it. If the site is for yourself \ for the soul \ for the overall development - do it, just do not write about this site after creating it in all forums and guestbooks

    Interview with Aryan


    [rk]: when and how did you find out about WAP?
    Ariets: in 2002 I bought a Samsung phone -
    ts100 in a beeline then there was a free gps-wap, well, that’s how, in principle, I got into a wap.
    [rk]: what was the first site you visited?
    Aryan: I do not remember. but later c100.nsk.ru it is now one of the most visited sites
    [rk]: what sites do you remember from those years besides the mentioned c100?
    Ariets: mypuk.ru the rest somehow erased
    Ariets: then a wab, a siza, cubes appeared
    Ariets: mag.su I still remember well, sat there for a long time in the chat, and then played the dragon amulet (online RPG)
    [rk]:that is, interactive wap sites requiring "direct participation" were popular, right?
    Aryan: at that time, any site was popular. since these sites could be counted on the fingers
    [rk]: how did you find out about the appearance of new sites? After all, tops, ratings, etc. and search engines at that time did not yet exist
    Aryan: mostly from acquaintances. Then the pslink rating appeared and it became easier.
    [rk]: is it clear when the thought came about creating your own project?
    Aryan: I then lived on wab.ru, saw a link to the designer, it became interesting. and a couple of days later my great project was shown to all my colleagues :-D
    [rk]::) If it's not a secret, what is the address of your “great project”?
    Aryan: brigada4.wab.ru unfortunately did not survive (nostalgia)
    when I added the first links, I walked around as if I had built a house. Since the phone was dumb, and the computer was not even expected in the future, I had to upload files in a barbaric way - via e-mail (there was such a function on the designer)
    [rk]: did the site get popularity?
    Aryan: no. he was dedicated to fellow workers. and colleagues weren’t particularly sick with vapom. In addition, they began to take money for the state registration service.
    [rk]: Now in more detail: what are the prices, have you started to limit yourself somehow, has the popularity of WAP dropped after the introduction of payment?
    Aryan:at first, the beeline introduced a monthly fee of $ 3 per month, it was tolerable, worse, they began to collect for traffic and GPRS-WAP became available only to oligarchs)) but it’s good that there is GPRS-Internet where the rates are high but tolerable (for me) 0.19 $ per mb.
    Ariets: I didn’t notice a decrease in the popularity of vap, since in our city he never enjoyed special popularity
    [rk]: did you know about holding a Siemens protest club, about meeting with representatives of the beeline "picketers"?
    Aryan: no. then I read it already)
    [rk]: how did the first popularity come *?
    Aryan: I can’t call my projects popular. the only thing that can somehow claim this title is a click club.
    [rk]:But what about the same chat - it’s now quite popular with
    Aryan: the chat was at one time or rather in the beginning and in the middle of 2008, the meeting was not badly visited. then I had some problems and in general I didn’t have time to chat. now he is visited by old people and sometimes someone from the vaplog wanders))
    Aryan: but there is light at the end of the tunnel. my dmobi coadmin writes a new version of the chat))
    [rk]: so, let's go back to 2005 - what did kmx interest you with?
    Aryan: Probably in the technical plan he was more advanced
    [rk]: I see.
    [rk]: now about the future
    [rk]: and the present
    [rk]: what is interesting for users now?
    Aryan:I find it difficult to answer this question. since what I thought was interesting for the user was not so interesting))
    [rk]: so, and what do you think - what is the future of WAP for? What services, what standards, what do you see today and tomorrow WAPerovchanina?))
    Aryan: the user is interested in communication, it has always been and will continue to be IMHO. but it’s practically impossible to promote a project at the moment without major investments (this is the answer to the previous question)
    [rk]: how do you see today's and tomorrow’s WAPerovchanin?
    Aryan:alas, probably today's layman wapa is a frightened and believing person. To my mind, site builders)) that cluttered the vap space with useless pages - redirects, as a result, the user surfs the links without knowing where they lead and as a result, many get to sites - scam. who undermine the trust of NORMAL low-visited sites (they are simply afraid to visit them)
    Ariets: and in the near future the situation is unlikely to change for the better, alas
    [rk]: Thanks for the interview

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    P.S. Thanks to DeeSee, unnamed777 and Aryan for their time.
    UPD1 I forgot to add: in an interview, unnamed777 mentioned FaQ that he wrote, I want to add that he wrote this FaQ completely from the cell phone.


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