Prague as a place worthy of moving from St. Petersburg - 3 years later
" ... Cannot be alien to the Slav
Be Czechs valiant land. "
Our colleague Andrei Dmitriev, who once told Habra his development history from homeless to Senior Developer, was recently invited to participate in the linkmeup podcast by our other colleague Loxmatiymamont . Within the framework of the project “Poezuehshie”, he communicates with IT specialists who are united by one detail: once they went to work from Russia to another country. But, in order not to repeat a million and a thousand such projects, in this podcast there is no talk about motivation, why and why reasonings, as well as searching for higher meanings. No, here the emphasis is on the domestic part of the question of the life of an ordinary person in a completely new place for him, without boring comparisons a la "where cucumbers are more expensive".
Andrei has been living in Prague for almost three years, so he decided to take part. And here is the transcript of their conversation. Link to the full record, of course, there is, but at the very end.
We [linkmeup] used to be blamed for some bias and that our project is periodically sold [issues with representatives of vendors - Ed ] . And today you will have a new reason to do this, because I invited my colleague to visit me - this is Andrei Dmitriev, he is now working in Prague. Hi Andrew!
- Tell me, please, who do you work?
- I am the lead developer in the graphical user interface (UI) development team.
- OK. How much are you already in Prague?
- I am 2.5 years old in Prague.
Fighters remember the days past ...
- As far as I remember, you had 2 very interesting articles: the first is devoted to how you even became a developer, and the second - how you went to Prague. In just 2-3 minutes you can tell a short squeeze, how did you “get to life like that”?
- I can just build a logical chain, how it all happened.
At one time, I decided to "hang out" from the university in the army. I went to the army (they didn’t take it the first time, because it seemed strange at the military registration office - that the person “mows down” in the army from the university, and I couldn’t go through a psychiatrist. However, they took me away, in general) in Saint-Petersburg. Since I was an athlete (I was involved in athletics), I got into the Army Sports Club and began to train.
While serving, he entered the University at PM-PU (St. Petersburg State University, Faculty of Applied Mathematics - Management Processes). I enrolled for the day, then problems began in the army, and I had to quit ...
After the army I had to go home, but did not go, stayed in St. Petersburg. He spent a little bit of time on different streets in search of work and eventually found work as a security guard. Began to work as a security guard and live there. And I guarded the book office. There was a lot of literature needed, respectively, for 2 years of work, I prepared for this literature (computer, according to various mathematical analyzes, etc.) and got a job there, in a book club: I wrote a small project designer, sold it to the same book club . After that I wrote a resume and went in search of a programmer’s work. Found, in the end, in Veeam Software. I worked there for 3 years in St. Petersburg, and we moved to Prague: we were offered, I agreed, we took shape for half a year, and here I am. So, if briefly.
- And “we” - is it that you left with your family?
- Yes. When we were told that we would move to Prague, I was alone. (More precisely, not to Prague, but we were going to go somewhere else — either to Finland, or to Prague, or somewhere else.) And while these conversations were going, I already had a family, I had child, dog, cat, mortgage ... During this time, already "we" has become. I gave the answer that I was moving alone, but eventually moved with the whole family.
- But you, probably, moved the first to equip a life? And then they all came to you?
- Yes, I moved first, for the first 2 months. Just moved, rented an apartment. And then my wife, child, dog came to me (I moved with the cat). If we are to be completely accurate: I flew with a cat, and then we moved by car with the whole family. And so, with a cat, we were looking for an apartment and settled down. Apartment, in fact, we were looking for a couple of days only. Somehow pretty quickly found.
- A, that is, with the apartments all is well. Well, about the apartments we have a little later scheduled to talk, let's talk about visas for now - or we will not talk about them at all. As I understand it, the entire visa history has passed by you, and in order not to lie, we will lower all the visas, right? That is, roughly speaking, you do not even know how a wife and child received a visa?
- Well, in short, I can say that this is a ton of some questionnaires ... you answer certain questions: who are your relatives, etc. There are a lot of these forms, and all the rest is erased from my memory. But these are all pieces of paper, and this is all surmountable.
Az da Buki - the basis of science
- Then let's talk a little about the country. In my opinion, the Czech Republic is interesting in two main things: the main language is still Czech, not English. Although it is located in the middle of Europe, there is not the euro, but its own currency - the Czech crowns.
Tell me about the Czech language, do you need to delve into it, dive-learn? Or maybe enough English?
- Czech need to learn. But if the goal is to rent an apartment, get to the doctor by LCA (I don’t remember what it’s called here), go to a Canadian [international clinic] where you speak English, then English is enough. Maybe for a trip to the restaurant. But if you come to the playground with the child, there will be about 50 \ 50 Russian speakers on the playground.
- Is it in the area where you live? Or in all areas?
- This is in principle in Prague. There are areas, for example, in Vinohrady, where 99% of Russian speakers will be. And on average, we were in many areas, because I ride a bicycle to different playgrounds with a child, 50 to 50 there. Well, not 50 to 50, but there will definitely be some Russian speakers.
However, we live in another country, this is not Russia, and you need to join the culture, but to integrate into the culture, you must know the language and communicate not only with the same people who moved, but with the local people too. And the child stretches, wants to play with different children, wants to understand, and in order for the child to be able, you should speak quietly yourself. This is a cultural moment. You come to live in another country, and I think it is wrong to say: “My hut is on the edge, I will live and speak only Russian (or English) everywhere”. This is purely from a moral point of view, it seems to me wrong.
The second point is the various government agencies. The same campaign for obtaining a Blue Card [work permit], the extension of the Blue Card - they will not speak English or Russian there. That is, you came to the country, and you, please, either [learn the language], or come with a translator then. We have a translator for this, but living in Prague for over 2 years and walking with an interpreter all the time in order to give documents, for example, to extend the lease of an apartment - it looks a little silly.
- How much did it take for you to walk without an interpreter?
- In fact, to be honest, I do not know the language well. And I don't know English well either, well, I somehow speak, but I know badly. But I have reasons for this: my wife is a translator, she knows, probably, all European languages.
And it turns out that I am not involved all the time. Arriving in the Czech Republic, she began to speak Czech in a week and now speaks fluently enough. Now we are arranging a child in the kindergarten, and she is already calmly speaking in Czech. I now began to talk, and my Czech is enough for me to go to a state institution. That is, I can explain and file documents. But at the level of communication, sit down and talk - I still have problems related to the fact that I am not in great demand in this field (for speaking Czech). But now I started training at the Czech cycling club, and they speak Czech. And little by little I begin to get involved, began to talk, communicate.
- That is, it is as always - when you need to dive, you start talking.
- The complexity of the Czech language is that it looks like Russian. And this complexity is quite large. It looks like it is similar, but these words cannot remain in your head, that is, you cannot remember. Why? Because "Oh, I know that word!".
But it is not used by us: it either looks like obsolete in our country, or has the opposite meaning. And, when it comes to reproduction, that is, you need to say something, then you cannot remember, because well, you knew this word, and it is somewhere in your memory. You will need to load all these memories into this RAM, but this is very difficult due to the fact that, apparently, some links are missing, because you “know” this word. This is exactly the key point. "You know, but forgot."
- As one comrade with a philological education explained to me just in the Czech Republic, historically speaking, the Czech language is much closer to the common ancestor of our languages. That is, it is not Czech like Russian, and this Russian is similar to Czech.
- To be fair, yes. It's true. A lot of this, as if in Old Church Slavonic. My great-grandmother in the Old Slavonic read the Bible, and here it was very similar.
- I must say that, for example, the numerals are almost the same.
- Yes. In numbers, you simply remove all the "soft", that is, not six, but the pole.
- Here I have the impression on the philistine-tourist level that everyone in the tourist center of Prague speaks English. But you are moving aside - and there you have to start communicating with some wild mix of Czech and Russian. Did you have this at first?
- There is such a moment, but I would say that it does not concern Prague itself. In Prague, people tend to speak English more, they know English. Clearly, not so good when compared to Germany, where everyone speaks English. In the Czech Republic, in Prague there is no such thing, but all young people up to 25-27 years old speak English. Our peers are those who are over 30, over 40, - yes there, some kind of mixture works, that’s true. I must say that the younger ones work in the service sector (restaurant business, sales), more often they have to communicate with them, and I saw that it is easier to explain them in English. Another moment is when you leave Prague. You come to some village, not far from Prague, 30 kilometers away, and there is a suspicion that they do not even know that the Czech Republic is a separate country, not Czechoslovakia. I.e, there is so much time, just worth, that there is a feeling that they do not know what is happening there. There everything is calm, very clean, there you can explain, just waving your arms and smiling. They don’t know English there, of course. In Prague, I would say that more English is involved.
- Closing the language theme: when I first saw the Czech keyboard, I was really surprised - if I remember correctly, they have 42 letters in the alphabet!
Is it difficult to get used to it?
- The Czechs themselves “slaughter” on all the “gachiki”, etc. and use just Latin, meaning they understand what's what. That is, sms-ki, for example, which come from mobile operators, never contain “gachikov” at all. Or from delivery. This, by the way, causes small problems - when you try to copy text for Google Translator, it doesn’t cut at all. Well, so, all these difficulties with “gachikami”, “ticks” and even all sorts of things at the top ... They are all on the numeric keypad (top), and you get used to pretty quickly where to find them. That is, for example, you need to find “rye” (Ř) - you climb into the numeric keypad and find it there without any problems.
- And what about all that is on the usual English keyboard above the number? Stars, brackets?
“I won't lie, I don't remember, but it all switches.” Must see, I have a laptop Czech. There were no problems with this.
- That is, you use 3 layouts: English, Czech and Russian?
- No, at work only 2 - English and Russian. And so, I in a usual life do not use a computer.
About homes and homeowners
- Now let's talk about my favorite “bytovuha”. What's in the Czech Republic with housing? Well, specifically in Prague, since you live in Prague. What is a "typical Prague place to stay"?
- There is such a moment: if you want a large spacious apartment with parking, etc., close to the center, and is willing to pay a decent amount, then you have no problems with renting.
- A decent amount - how much?
- This is - starting from 27,000 crowns. In rubles it is necessary to multiply by 3.
- That is, it turns out about 80 000 rubles, that is, 1000 with something euro per month.
- Yes, this is the starting amount. That is, starting from this amount, you will rent good housing relatively without problems.
- About the center is clear: expensive, pathetic. But, it seems to me, it’s uncomfortable to live in the center - crowds of tourists ...
- Yes. The center of Prague is that which is concentrated around Prague Castle. There is a pavement, but no one lives there. But there are such areas as Vinohrady, Zizkov, which are next to these historical ones.
The best city in Europe * (according to a survey among Andrei Dmitriev)
“For this and last summer we traveled a lot of European cities, and I’ll say with confidence: Prague is the most adapted city for family life.
- What is it expressed?
- Suppose you have such an average Czech family: mom, dad, 2 children, a dog and a car. The car is in the parking lot and is only required in order to go somewhere to rest for the weekend.
You have a bike, children have bikes. You go out, drive along bike paths or along marked places on the road. Or, you leave with a carriage - you can also pass everywhere with a carriage. Yes, there is a relief, but there are congresses everywhere. Unlike Rome, Paris, you’ll go everywhere with a pram.
In each area there is not one playground for dogs: a separate, equipped, fenced, where you can play with the dog, to train it.
In each area there are many parks. The number of parks is amazing. And these parks have playgrounds.
Let me give an example: I came to St. Petersburg in the first year after my departure to the Czech Republic and decided to just walk around the city with my dog. So, in St. Petersburg, I could not go into any park and could not eat anywhere - with a dog. I was simply not allowed anywhere ... And you think: why then all this is created? Just for the picture?
Here in the Czech Republic, for example, if there is a park, then you can, for example, sit on the grass, on the bench, go to the playground - and they will let you in with the dog everywhere. Simply, there are differences there are places where you can let the dog go, let it run - or you keep it on a leash, but you pass it everywhere.
And the playgrounds - I saw it with my own eyes: an employee is attached to each playground, which inventories and repairs this site during the week. Any breakage, any cracks - everything is checked, and you always come to the playground and you know that your child will not fall into some kind of hole. We were here in Georgia now, and there was a little fucking there, to be honest: there my child almost fell from the playground, because there was a hole in the floor!
So I say that Prague, and indeed the Czech Republic (because we drove through almost all cities) is very adapted for life: you can drive everywhere with a sidecar, you have the possibility of the same parking, if you are on Czech rooms and your area then you get up free. But it's hard to imagine why you need a car in the city, because public transport runs on a schedule. The distances here are small, so the car, perhaps, go to the airport and leave there ...
- That is, if not a sports guy like you - with a bicycle - then you can live completely quietly without a car?
- Completely. The car here is needed due to the fact that so many beautiful places. In addition to the internal parks in Prague, there are places where you want to go to relax on the weekends - that's when the car is needed.
- And the apartments themselves - what's this? Is this a new house or is it “Czech gothic”? I mean simple areas to stay.
“Such areas are new homes.” Well, if you do not want absolutely extreme. There are “Khrushchev’s”, they have been restored, but since then they have the inside of “Khrushchev’s”, which have not been altered in any way, with the kitchen a meter by meter, they are no different from our “Khrushchev’s”. But for renting, I saw few of these apartments. They are not there, or, if there is, they diverge between "their".
And so, this is a simple housing. Here, almost all apartments have the form of studios. That is, if 2-kk. is a large room and a kitchen, and a separate room. At the moment we are removing the “three rubles”, there is a large room combined with a kitchen, a separate bathroom and 2 separate rooms, underground parking and a “crypt” (“crypt” is a warehouse) - there is a separate room next to the parking lot various things.
- And how much does it cost you, if not a secret?
- Now it costs us 24,000 (Czech crowns), but we stopped in an empty apartment, without furniture. We even set our kitchen.
- So this furniture will follow you?
- Yes, there will be a “ride”. But it’s written in our agreement that if we don’t want to take away some things, then the owner will buy them from us. Well, the kitchen - if we move out for 5 years - then he buys it at 100% price, and then with depreciation already, there are percentages registered.
- Interesting. Is this a characteristic thing for Prague?
- No, I will say right away, this is rare. We came across such a person, he is an economist himself, a young guy who speaks English very well, is actively studying Russian. He has several apartments in our house, he rents them. But this is not a typical example.
Actually, firstly, there are usually agents - I would not say that they are irresponsible, rather, they are not very interested: they may not answer you ... they are somehow lazy about this. This is if you are trying to remove through the agency.
Landlords themselves - everything is good with them in the sense that they don’t bother you; everything is written in the contract. But the pledge that you leave for an apartment, they try not to give as much as possible - that’s yes. That is, they will find some problems, 100%, in the apartment, and will try not to give some money. Such a moment is present, and the guys are faced with this. We do not have this, because we do not have a pledge - what pledge, if we moved into an empty apartment? And the person [master] is oriented somehow a little differently. I think we are very lucky.
- Is the deposit a monthly payment?
- Yes, if you are with animals, it is usually double.
- Do they have warm apartments? With central heating?
- In Prague, there is no winter per se, such as we are used to. I do not remember that it was ever cold, but with heating ... We had electric heating in the first apartment, and here we have central heating, batteries.
“And this is the communication tube, the communication tube.”
- And what about the internet? With mobile, with stationary?
- If you want to carry the Internet home, then you need to be prepared for what you have to wait, well, 2 weeks, so that you stretch the cable. Because everything related to delivery or some services that do not concern your life (that is, not an ambulance), then everything that will be delivered to you, you can wait a very long time. Here, this [delivery service] is not such an incredibly sought-after thing, that is, everyone is ready to wait. For example, if you need a TV, you ordered a TV in an electronics store - then they can bring it to you in a week: “Why, dude, would you die, perhaps, without a TV? You'll not die. Why should we hurry then? ”
- That is, the delivery time is not indicated at all?
- No, they are designated, just “we didn’t go to this area today, so, sorry, another SMS will come later”. For me personally, this is not a problem. Yes, it’s not like in St. Petersburg, where, for example, you decided that you need the Internet right now - and they will come to you almost at night. There is no such thing. Here - stand up, call, we will see and then we will call you back. And they can not call back. You call them, and they - yes, yes, we recorded something here ... Therefore, we just bought a wireless 4G mobile. We bought a router U2, and we have enough. Well, I have enough Tour de France to watch.
- Is it worth all this sane money?
- Yes, sane. In the region of 300-400 CZK is absolutely normal. Mobile Internet is expensive, but everything is relative too: you can set up various options. But with this, of course, everything is wild for a person who is used to living in our realities - to understand that there will be some difficulty with connecting the mobile Internet. If you come, buy a SIM card, insert it, then you will not have the Internet.
- What should be done?
- Go to the mobile application, which is well, very badly done, well, really, just “tear it out”, that is, game ... Yes, and there you need to find [package settings] and set up a package for yourself. For example, you ordered a package with a data transfer limit of 3 GB, scooped them up in a week (and this is your monthly package) - and here you will connect such a bag every day, and you will have completely different money for all this. So, you need to be careful in this regard. Yes, everything is so “without haste” - everything that does not concern your life. As for the ambulance, it will appear in you instantly, because here the ambulances fly with the speed of the wind, and everyone misses them. It amazes me to the depths of my soul: for example, how in a tunnel cars manage to scatter to the sides when the ambulance rides. It is directly worthy of respect.
“Sorry, I'll have to write you a fine.”
- Listen, but I was also told that the Czechs are wild couch potatoes, that the Czechs for the weekend are almost unreal to lure somewhere.
- I'll tell you: for example, Saturday, morning, I go down to the parking lot. It is worth my car and Moscow, all, parking is empty for the weekend. Therefore, to say that they are couch potatoes, I would not. Everyone gets off for the weekend somewhere, and it’s too early, we don’t even have time to do it.
- Besides the fact that you go to renew this Blue Card, do you somehow interact with government agencies? With traffic cops at least?
- That's about the traffic cops - again, this is an incredible difference: you can hardly interact with them. Everywhere there are cameras, there are rules that you must follow. But for all the time that we went (for more than 2 years), we were stopped only 2 times. And we drive a lot.
The first time - we went to buy me a bike and stopped at a prohibited place, at a crossroads. And just some local resident called and called the police. A policeman came to us, very apologized, says: “Sorry, but you can't stand here, and I will have to (understand!“ I will have to ”!) To issue you a fine. And in order not to delay you much, you can pay me now, I will write you a receipt now. And if you don’t have cash now, you’ll have to go to the post office and pay a fine at any post office. Sorry, ”well, in general, everything happened like this.
- Was it in Prague or in a village?
- It was in Prague, on the outskirts, next to the store where I bought and repaired a bicycle.
The second time we were stopped when we went to Paris, near the border with Germany. We have automatic light settings and the like, and while I was loading things, I caught something and disconnected this automatics. And we went with the dimensions off. And there are toll roads, and you need to stick a sticker on the windshield, but with us it was not glued, just thrown on the “torpedo”.
We were stopped, [the policeman] checked the documents, said that we do not have dimensions. He simply said that they would turn it on, and asked me to stick a “vignette” (this is the name for this sticker for driving on toll roads, this is an inexpensive thing, I bought it for a year and go quietly — I stuck it on the window and go). Then wished good luck, and all! At this conversation with the police about the car I have completely ended.
From the point of view of a cyclist - there are a lot of interesting moments. I bought a bicycle, and before that I only rode a bicycle at the age of 6 years old, and did not ride again, since I was involved in athletics, ran, and we could not ride on rollers or on a bicycle. Now I stopped running and bought a bike. And I was so struck by the opportunity to go somewhere far away, that on the second day after the purchase I decided to do so and go somewhere far away. I chose the city of Tabor for this, googled the route there ...
This, in fact, should have been 100 km smooth, but it turned out to be somewhat more. I saw that this is part of the cycle path, the so-called. “Green Way” Prague-Vienna in very picturesque places. I was delighted. I didn’t have any navigation, I thought: “Well, there are signs there, I’ll pass by.”
In the morning I got up, got on my bike and drove off. Did not take any supplies, no water, nothing. I went at random. But I was absolutely not oriented. This is not Peter, where direct roads. There is something winding all the time, and there was fog, and I did not know about the existence of some toll roads here. And when I traveled from Prague, I lost these bicycle path signs. Okay, I think I'll go in this direction. I leave and get on some very big road, trucks are going there and I’m honking. I was surprised - you guys signal me? Here the curb is healthy, I can drive. And they all honk, waving their hands. I think: “Here are the brazen people! You can't ride a bike! ”.
As a result, it turned out to be a paid expressway, where cyclists are not allowed to drive - the fine is about 2000 kroons. I was stopped by the police. They caught up with me, stopped me, began to explain, and I don’t understand what they say, because it was when I lived in Prague for only 3 weeks.
- That is, the language did not understand?
- At all. Then somehow “Do you speak English?” - one policeman spoke more or less English, he began to explain to me, they say, dude, there is a high-speed track, you can't be here, what are you doing here? I somehow replied that I was actually driving along the Prague-Tabor cycle path. They are: “Aha, not really.” And it seemed that now I would have some problems. But what did these guys do? They said, they say, you do not know anything here, we have explained all this to you now, and you need to somehow move down this road. And the exit is only 5 km away. And they say: “Go with us.” And they followed me for 30 km / h with flashing lights. When we arrived, they showed me something, poured water (they were very surprised that I was without water at all) and sent me to Tabor on this bike path.
- Is a fine written out?
- A fine is not written!
They said: "If we see you again, it will be fine, because you now know everything." That was a pleasant conversation with the police.
The second conversation was in winter. Winter is dark, I ride a bike, pierce, then pierce again - I do not have a spare tire, I'm sitting near the Vltava, I'm cold ... A police car is going, it stops. They take, put on their gloves - and the bike is dirty, the snow has gone and melted - and they put on gloves, you know, they search, take the bike, fold it, put me in the backseat and give it to me to hold it, and the wheels in the trunk - and so to the house I was in the end and taken away! Good luck, that's all. They took me straight to the house. And not only me - the guys were often taken by the police when something happened to them.
- Maybe for the balance of something not too funny tell? And then “the Czech police are the best in the world” ...
- Well, not the best in the world. But they, first, do not meet at all. And when you walk around the city, you are not afraid. Here I, for example, go to St. Petersburg, I see a policeman - I'm scared. Do you understand? That's the problem. Because, for sure, there is something. And the Czech do not interfere.
There was a time when I lost the Blue Card, I went to rebuild, and I had to get a certificate from the police. They are just there very slowly doing it all. I came - and he is there all so slowly, slowly [draws up]. But very politely and without any hassle. But very slowly.
They also wrote me a fine and scolded me very much (let's say) - I was driving to Dresden on a bike and driving through the railway crossing when the barrier was lowered there, and on the other side the police stood. It was then that they wrote me a fine, because there was a strong violation, and no “I got lost” excuses did not work.
- And how much to drive under the barrier?
- 1500 CZK.
About medical care
- Do you also come across any representatives of the state somewhere? In normal, everyday life?
- Here, recently, the child sprained his leg, and we went to do an x-ray in a regular hospital, where you are not spoken in English. You need to understand another attitude: if you are not in the blood, do not die, it means that you will sit in any queue. You have no priority, doctors do not attach any importance to how old you are ... What directly threatens your life - yes, they will assign the 1st level. And everything that is not connected - for example, pregnancy - we have a very controlled pregnancy, and at different times put on conservation, etc ... And there is no such thing, everything is like a natural moment: gave birth - well, did not give birth - Well, I'm sorry, you get pregnant again. And this applies, in principle, to all medicine. I'm sorry - hope for immunity, if absolutely everything is bad - then antibiotics. Everything. No such unbelievable care, nothing like that. How are we? Either they will send you, or they will shake over you, they will say: “Lie!”, A ton of medicine will be discharged. And here at all this does not happen. You call the doctor to the house - and he will say: “What, can't you go, or what?” You say: “I can.” “Go.” This is the moment.
- And this is state medicine? Or in private as well?
- In private is the same. They just offer you tea when you're at the reception.
- That is, if the bones stick out, still sit and wait?
- No, if the bones stick out - it is still a priority. Since you can anything, happen, and blood, and the like. All this will be a priority. But if some kind of changeist - then sit still, wait.
- And how much sense is there to contact private medicine? State is considered good or not?
- All that I contacted with the doctors, it was only with the child. And we have only different private clinics for comparison. We asked there, and how would it be in ordinary? In general, everything is the same. The only thing that there are several buildings that have inherited from the Soviet past. They are restored, yes, but they are a bit creepy. Although the level itself is no different.
- That is, without VHI you can live quite peacefully?
- You can live, yes.
- How do pharmacies work? Come buy what you want? Or is the recipe necessary?
- “What you want” is only vitamin C. Nothing can be bought at a pharmacy without a prescription, practically nothing. Nurofen you can buy. Everything else you have to buy with a prescription. In the evening, you will not get out and you will not get into the round-the-clock pharmacy; And in Prague there are 6 of them in total, that is, if the child has a fever, and it shows up at 12 o'clock at night, and you need to buy Nurofen’s children, you will have to stomp far to the pharmacy. Addresses are all known, yes. And so, the drugs are very difficult to buy here.
About European Values
- Now let's talk a little about our IT life in the Czech Republic. Here is an IT sector worker - is he in the Czech Republic a respected person or not?
- Well, according to various surveys, our sphere ranks 3rd in terms of pay. At the 1st place - the airline dispatchers, at the 2nd place - something related to the economy, well, at the 3rd already programmers, IT.
Regarding the respected profession - there is a moment that is very noticeable, namely: they do not pay much attention to your status. That is, you do not use, say, additional bonuses, if you have a salary 4 times more than someone else. That is, their status in terms of work or money is not felt.
- And what about the penetration of technology into ordinary life? There is a story that “Russia is a technologically backward country”, that “everything new appears late in our country”. And how are you?
- If we talk about the Czech Republic ... Here you rarely find a store in Berlin where you can pay with a card. In the Czech Republic better with this. But, in my opinion, if we talk about all sorts of technological things, then in Russia everything is much better in this regard.
In order to pursue technology, you need to go to Asia, maybe to America. In Europe, there is in principle a different value. Thing does not define you, does not define your life. If you need, say, a new tablet or phone, then it is not here.
- What is it?
- Here ... how to formulate ... here is the value of a person in principle as such.
Here comes the tourist and goes out at 7 pm - and he has no place to eat. Because the shops are closed. And he is: “How bad is everything!” And on the other hand, if you think about human values, the seller has the right to be with his family when everything is with his family, right? And he is the same person, absolutely.
And this is the value. And it is felt in principle in Europe, that is, when we are passing through other countries, other cities - here it is. The one who is behind the counter is no different from the one in front of the counter. I would put it that way. That is, it is precisely the focus on some kind of humanity, or something ...
And everything connected with electronics, with some technologies is all for you. You do not live for this, but for you it is done.
Cars are bought here solely to meet the needs of the family - that is, if you have a family of 3 children, then there will be a large Volvo XC 90.
- And Skoda? I thought they had a Skoda as a national idea.
- Skoda expensive - and for the Czechs, too expensive. And better someone will buy Passat - it is cheaper a little bit. Skoda a lot, of course, but they are quite expensive. But I mean, cars are bought solely from needs. That is, it is not something that defines you. The phone is bought, again, from your need, and that's it. Initially, I thought it was a mock (you know, we sometimes think about each other that way). But no, this is their general idea of life: technology is for you, household appliances are also for you. And this does not emphasize your status, your success.
This is, in fact, very cool. For me it was a revelation.
About cars and other human friends
- By the way, about cars: as far as I know, you did not “legalize” the car, that is, you still ride Russian numbers. Is there any difficulty?
- There is a law that was created more to support its own car industry, so that the Czechs did not buy “Germans” second-hand and did not drive on German numbers. But it's all on paper. In fact, all without a difference.
- But do you go to Russia with some periodicity?
- Yes, there is such a law: if you have lived on the territory of another state for a year, then at the entrance to your own country you will be asked to clear your car if it has been with you abroad for more than a year. This means that if you want to drive into the territory of Russia in your own car on Russian numbers, then you must leave at the border a deposit for a car equal to the full value of the car. And if you want to travel to Russia later, then you gave this pledge and “presented”. And if you want to go back to the Czech Republic, for example, then at the border you take the money and go home. (But this is such a thing when they want to openly start something against you. But it is still difficult to implement, because you need a lot of things, and also because nobody needs it. That is, you go to Russian rooms - yes, okay) .
We go to THAT in Kaliningrad, because there is a Nissan center there. By and large, if you ride other rooms, there is no problem. There are problems with parking - that is, you will not get permission to park in your area, you will not get up on the “blue line”. Because the “blue line” is for those who live in the area: you register your vehicle and get a sticker that you can park on the “blue lines” in your area.
- This is valid only if you are in a car with local numbers?
- Yes, that is, you can not register a Russian car.
- And what about the traffic rules and our rights?
- I have a separate driver (as well as a translator) - in the face of my wife :) she received rights here, that is, exchanged her old rights for local ones. On Russian rights you can, in my opinion, drive for six months. Then it is necessary to exchange, but this process is quite fast.
- That is, there is no need to take exams again?
- No, do not. You can, for example, get rights again - then you will have both Russians and locals.
Dumplings start and win
- And for what week-month-day all this colorful Czech food bothers you? Dumplings, “warm knee”, beer?
- Well, I don’t really like beer. When I arrived, I thought I would order Czech food, dumplings. Take out the dumplings. I see Russian loaf chopped, with a cut off crust, and goulash. Goulash is very tasty. But I didn’t get it, didn’t understand how to relate a loaf to some [national] food?
- But this is still not a pure loaf, something is being done there.
- Yes, but this is the first impression! But now tell me that this is “just a bun” - I will be very surprised, it will seem strange to me. After half a year I understood the taste. Now, on the contrary, I want Czech food, and I started ordering exactly Czech food - and 2 years have passed. And before that, I ordered the Carbonar everywhere. When I arrived now after Georgia, I thought that Georgian food could not bother me - for 2 days I was fed up with Georgian cuisine :) And Czech — not happy, I eat dumplings. Here, everything related to any soups (here called polévka) is an incredible thing, very tasty.
For what you go, you will find
- My list of questions is over, maybe you want to tell something yourself?
- We are more or less all covered. But what I want to say for those who, perhaps, wants to move, has plans to move: there is no huge difference in the standard of living, but there is a huge difference in the attitude to life itself.
If you want to get some incredible service around, super-delivery or the latest technology, if you want to get something expensive, cool ... What is it called? Technocracy society, huh? Perhaps this is not what you can get here.
And if you want a quiet life and do your favorite work there - like I, for example, ride my bike and I am glad that I don’t have any problems with it, that I can drive everywhere, that I have everything for that - yes, that's cool .
But to go for a better life is wrong. Life is everywhere the same in principle, depending on how you feel about it. I was very good in St. Petersburg too.
- But in the Czech Republic you, apparently, it became better?
- Yes, it became better, but because in principle it was interesting to me. I had commercials in St. Petersburg, I drove on rollers, and it was beautiful. (We don’t touch politics, there are political moments, why I’m here. If you just touch the lives and attitudes of people, there is no difference.)
- But can you say that you found yourself in the Czech Republic and you don't want to go anywhere else?
- No, no, I just want to say, I found myself in the sense that I accept other countries. I know where I don't want, I get it.
- Where a man from the Czech Republic does not want?
- I do not want to any Asian country. And if you take Europe, I don’t want to go to Italy at all; this is probably the only country I don’t want to go to.
- What are they so annoy you?
- Lack of personal space. These are people who, for me, are probably too open and emotional, who are invading your life. Therefore, no. And they have some rules of their own. That is, they build their society not from the laws of logic, but there are some moral principles, and they build a law from morality. I think this is completely wrong. Morality is such a thing, very vague.
- That is the quiet Czech regularity approached much more?
- Yes, of course, much more. The only city that I could move to now - of all I visited - is Berlin. But there are no slides, so ...
- Then, to complete the tradition, say something to our listeners, who are in thought, to go somewhere, not to go, should you do this, shouldn't you? How are you looking at it now?
- I think that if you have the opportunity to go - you should always go. Even if everything is fine, everything is fine in its place. I believe that you always need to change something. We live once. And I am guided by only one rule: it is better to try than not to try. I don’t understand these boundaries, why I don’t have the right to leave the country. I love my country, I love people. But I'm not closed, I want to see more.
And no need to set a goal for yourself ... no need to chase a better life, changing the place. You need to look for a better life where you are. And you need to change places simply so that you have new impressions, new ideas about life. And in general, you already look at everything differently. Even another language affects you.
Therefore, I say: if you want to move, because you feel bad now in that particular place where you are, then when you move, you will be just as bad, for sure. And if you live, and you like everything, but your goal is to expand your horizons, learn something new, see something new, feel something new, then you need to move. Everything is in our head.
- But what about the story that you just need to “go out of your comfort zone”?
- Yes, this is all for textbooks. So I would be some big boss, then I would like to withdraw my subordinates from the comfort zone so that their productivity would grow. But to say this to people from whom I do not need anything, I would not. So this is some requirement for your performance. But for happiness, for the feeling that you will become better - I would not argue.
- You are actually the first to express such an idea in our line of interviews with specialists who moved from Russia to other countries. Because usually everyone says something different: the standard of living increases due to some services, due to something else ...
- Maybe this is somehow related to the fact that I was good at reading the verses on the Field of Mars as well and get there some coins in due time. That is, now it would be bad, yes - and then it would be good. It seems to me that I am so logical (logical for myself) and develop smoothly ... when I lived in St. Petersburg, I generally liked everything, except for the rain. Rain, of course, kills, yes. And what can I say about the Czech Republic - it's the weather! There is beautiful weather. Guys, if you got Peter, with his constant rain, wind - then yes, this [Czech Republic] is what you need!
- So your recipe is that a person paints a place, and not vice versa?
- The only way. In fact, I am not saying this only from my own experience; I also saw those guys who tried in every possible way to move for a better life. Well, they find “shoals” here all the time, that is, they are bad everywhere, they are being deceived everywhere — nowhere are they deceiving me.
- In general, I understood you: if you do not want to search for the bad, you will not find it. Excellent position. Well, Andrei, thank you very much for the interview, it was very interesting, you are a wonderful interlocutor.
- Thank you very much!
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