April 12, 2016 at 13:31Kwork.ru: what came out of an attempt to launch Russian Fiverr
Update November 8, 2019: problems with the withdrawal of money from the Quark.
Quark users know that the withdrawal of funds on this site is carried out only twice a week: on Mondays and Thursdays. Withdrawal of funds is carried out through the partner system Solar-staff.
This week I came across an amazing attitude of the service to the money earned by their users. Next Thursday, November 7, the withdrawal of funds was supposed to take place - and, as usual, in the personal account the status of the request for withdrawal of money changed to yellow - "the funds were sent to the Solar Staff payment system on November 7th."
Usually the money came on the same day, but on November 7 I did not wait for anything. On the morning of November 8, I wrote to Solar Staff technical support, as decided that the problem was on their side - after all, it was written on Quark that the money had been sent.
The answer from Solar Staff surprised me:
I had to write Quark technical support to find out why the request for withdrawal of funds has the status “In Process” with a note that the money was sent to Solar Staff, although Solar Staff tells me that they don’t have anything to them translated. I asked the Quark support a simple question: “You just wrote that in the process, instead of sending money?”
In other words, the status "In Process", despite the postscript that the money was sent to the payment system, the "Quark" does not mean at all that the money was actually sent.
As a result of persistent inquiries, I achieved only that my application was simply canceled.
And only after that, an employee of Quark admitted to me that I already knew thanks to the previously received answer from Solar Staff technical support: that they had not transferred any money the day before.
To the question "When will I see my money?" I was told that I wouldn’t roll my lip out much:
The current situation looks as if Quark had made a withdrawal of funds on time Thursday and now, taking advantage of the fact that it's Friday in the yard, they just pull the time until the next withdrawal date - Monday - hiding behind the answer “ today probably will not work. ”
At the same time, the message "funds were sent to the Solar-Staff payment system", as it turned out, does not mean anything at all - maybe they were sent, as it was in previous cases, but maybe not. Go and know.
I look forward to the development of the situation.
Original article text:
In one capacity or another, I have been using freelance for a very long time. A special place in my heart is occupied by the site fl.ru, which was called, before they accumulated on a two-digit domain, free-lance.ru. These guys have occupied a useful and profitable niche for a long time, becoming in many areas a synonym for Russian freelance as such, and despite the inexhaustible reasons to be dissatisfied with them, they are not losing ground.
The reason invincibility fl.ru was a mystery to me. Maybe he, with all his shortcomings, just turned out to be an ideal mirror of Russian freelance as such? The nitpicks to the existing paradigm of relations between the Russian customer and the Russian freelancer are constantly met. "Because he is the hero that freelance deserves, but not the one that freelance needs right now." It turns out that making “killers free-lance.ru” from another clone is useless - Charlie Chaplin will not have a double better than Charlie Chaplin. Perhaps it is so - it is useless to encroach on the fl.ru niche. But you can open a new one.
Yes, now a critical mass of freelancers has accumulated there, attracting customers, but history knows quite a few examples of migrations of large communities - once everyone had ICQ, and now, if you go there, the contact list will resemble Poklonnaya Gora on a weekday morning . Then they switched to skype, now they go to Telegram - when a new interesting offer meets the user's fatigue from long-standing unsolvable problems, the further happens quickly enough.
What is the problem of freelance as such? The need to seek and the need to negotiate. When hiring a person in the state, the employer does this once and for a long time. On freelance, it becomes a routine, taking a significant fraction of the time and effort intended to solve the problem.
The lack of a clear pricing policy creates a primeval market broth in which everyone gurgles a lot: customers take prices from the ceiling, freelancers drop prices below the plinth, and then they meet and agree four together: each with each other and his own toad. In general, this is constant bargaining, and constant bargaining is constant stress.
The search for orders is a separate story. Together with the need to negotiate, the need for continuous search gives rise to natural bewilderment: what about work, when, in fact?
Kwork, being the Russian analogue of the successful Fiverr service , after its prototype changes the paradigm of the relationship of the freelancer with the customer: instead of scouring in search of clients, the contractor works on the systematization and delivery of his services. Customers come to kwork like a store, already knowing what he needs. The performer's concern is to make his product look more attractive than others. This is a great model for experienced freelancers who have already worked out their own record - now the record can work for them.
The mere need to structure your skills is a fat advantage of Quark, because it hasn’t hurt anyone to understand what exactly you know how to do, and how much this one costs. And the work of Quark is to attract a sufficiently large number of visitors to your hypermarket, including thanks to articles like this.
From the point of view of the customer, it looks even better:
Another undocumented feature of Quark: any customer can find in it a way to make money on their own. Surely, you, a successful reader, already have a good job. But even highly paid specialists do not disdain to earn, say, by consulting - there simply is usually no time and desire to search for a clientele. But there is no quark on the site - I did it, I set the price, and I forgot. Or, let’s say, with its help you can turn the hobbies of your loved ones into earnings - you never know. I know examples of businesses that grew out of part-time wives who outgrew the businesses of their husbands. And Quark may well be the place to start it. One of the amazing effects of Quark is that when you walk around the site and see what people don’t earn money from, it sometimes seems that they literally make money from the air, and you start looking at your resources in a new way.
There are really a lot of offers on the site - more than you would expect from a resource launched only in November. The project successfully implemented the resources of the parent company Mirafox , which owns the Copylancer freelancer project (just an example of that freelance that there aren’t enough stars from the sky), link exchanges and SEO articles.
Seochny roots are not something to be proud of on a site like Megamind, but the fact remains: it worked. From the project, which is four months old, you absolutely do not expect such a riot of colors in stock. The choice is such that the eyes run wide, and the apparent accessibility (remember - all quarts of 500 rubles each) includes weekend hypermarket syndrome: I want to run between the rows with the trolley and throw everything inside. Now about 1100 quarts per week are already being drawn up at Quark.
Of course, this is not a panacea for the problems of the Russian, and indeed any freelance. And cranks in different letters are found among those offering their services at the Quark. But still, there is a pleasant feeling that clear frameworks and rules simplify life and discipline - the main thing is to keep in mind that just living people still sit inside the framework.
This reminds me of the story of Uber, which took the private carriage market (freelancers) and, using a single platform and clear rules, made a kind of taxi out of it, occupying a niche between bombers that can be caught with a wave of your hand and individual taxis (which are located in this analogies can be given to outsourcing companies). One of the side effects of this success was that Uber itself began to be perceived as a taxi service, which they vehemently deny, stressing that they are just a platform. Perhaps Kwork has every chance from the side to seem like something single and monolithic, like Uber - i.e. not just a site full of gypsies pulling fingers to your wallets, but an organization with a large staff of remote employees. Which may not even consider freelance as their primary occupation, and from time to time to do understandable work at understandable prices - just like the Uber drivers, who sometimes only give them a couple of hours a day after work. This means that the demand for Quark and the quality of the services sold on it will be different - the project will need to carefully monitor feedback and work with performers. Uber, by the way, in this sense is doing well - they train their drivers well with a plus. Cope with this Kwork - and can become a "Uber" for freelance. At least in the ru zone. in this sense, everything is fine - they train their drivers well with a plus. Cope with this Kwork - and can become a "Uber" for freelance. At least in the ru zone. in this sense, everything is fine - they train their drivers well with a plus. Cope with this Kwork - and can become a "Uber" for freelance. At least in the ru zone.
Quark “Message on the girl’s shirt” for 500 rubles
Quark users know that the withdrawal of funds on this site is carried out only twice a week: on Mondays and Thursdays. Withdrawal of funds is carried out through the partner system Solar-staff.
This week I came across an amazing attitude of the service to the money earned by their users. Next Thursday, November 7, the withdrawal of funds was supposed to take place - and, as usual, in the personal account the status of the request for withdrawal of money changed to yellow - "the funds were sent to the Solar Staff payment system on November 7th."
Usually the money came on the same day, but on November 7 I did not wait for anything. On the morning of November 8, I wrote to Solar Staff technical support, as decided that the problem was on their side - after all, it was written on Quark that the money had been sent.
The answer from Solar Staff surprised me:
I had to write Quark technical support to find out why the request for withdrawal of funds has the status “In Process” with a note that the money was sent to Solar Staff, although Solar Staff tells me that they don’t have anything to them translated. I asked the Quark support a simple question: “You just wrote that in the process, instead of sending money?”
In other words, the status "In Process", despite the postscript that the money was sent to the payment system, the "Quark" does not mean at all that the money was actually sent.
As a result of persistent inquiries, I achieved only that my application was simply canceled.
And only after that, an employee of Quark admitted to me that I already knew thanks to the previously received answer from Solar Staff technical support: that they had not transferred any money the day before.
To the question "When will I see my money?" I was told that I wouldn’t roll my lip out much:
The current situation looks as if Quark had made a withdrawal of funds on time Thursday and now, taking advantage of the fact that it's Friday in the yard, they just pull the time until the next withdrawal date - Monday - hiding behind the answer “ today probably will not work. ”
At the same time, the message "funds were sent to the Solar-Staff payment system", as it turned out, does not mean anything at all - maybe they were sent, as it was in previous cases, but maybe not. Go and know.
I look forward to the development of the situation.
Original article text:
In one capacity or another, I have been using freelance for a very long time. A special place in my heart is occupied by the site fl.ru, which was called, before they accumulated on a two-digit domain, free-lance.ru. These guys have occupied a useful and profitable niche for a long time, becoming in many areas a synonym for Russian freelance as such, and despite the inexhaustible reasons to be dissatisfied with them, they are not losing ground.
The reason invincibility fl.ru was a mystery to me. Maybe he, with all his shortcomings, just turned out to be an ideal mirror of Russian freelance as such? The nitpicks to the existing paradigm of relations between the Russian customer and the Russian freelancer are constantly met. "Because he is the hero that freelance deserves, but not the one that freelance needs right now." It turns out that making “killers free-lance.ru” from another clone is useless - Charlie Chaplin will not have a double better than Charlie Chaplin. Perhaps it is so - it is useless to encroach on the fl.ru niche. But you can open a new one.
When a new interesting proposal meets the user's fatigue from long-standing unsolvable problems, the further happens quickly enough
Yes, now a critical mass of freelancers has accumulated there, attracting customers, but history knows quite a few examples of migrations of large communities - once everyone had ICQ, and now, if you go there, the contact list will resemble Poklonnaya Gora on a weekday morning . Then they switched to skype, now they go to Telegram - when a new interesting offer meets the user's fatigue from long-standing unsolvable problems, the further happens quickly enough.
Some more lyrics
The lack of a clear pricing policy gives rise to a primeval market broth, in which everyone gurgles a lot: customers take prices from the ceiling, freelancers drop prices below the plinth
What is the problem of freelance as such? The need to seek and the need to negotiate. When hiring a person in the state, the employer does this once and for a long time. On freelance, it becomes a routine, taking a significant fraction of the time and effort intended to solve the problem.
The lack of a clear pricing policy creates a primeval market broth in which everyone gurgles a lot: customers take prices from the ceiling, freelancers drop prices below the plinth, and then they meet and agree four together: each with each other and his own toad. In general, this is constant bargaining, and constant bargaining is constant stress.
The search for orders is a separate story. Together with the need to negotiate, the need for continuous search gives rise to natural bewilderment: what about work, when, in fact?
Kwork, being the Russian analogue of the successful Fiverr service , after its prototype changes the paradigm of the relationship of the freelancer with the customer: instead of scouring in search of clients, the contractor works on the systematization and delivery of his services. Customers come to kwork like a store, already knowing what he needs. The performer's concern is to make his product look more attractive than others. This is a great model for experienced freelancers who have already worked out their own record - now the record can work for them.
The mere need to structure your skills is a fat advantage of Quark, because it hasn’t hurt anyone to understand what exactly you know how to do, and how much this one costs. And the work of Quark is to attract a sufficiently large number of visitors to your hypermarket, including thanks to articles like this.
From the point of view of the customer
From the point of view of the customer, it looks even better:
- clarity arises as to who can what. If a person offers an icon design, it means that most likely he really knows how to make them, once he put this “product” in the window. This removes the problem of amateurs to try something new at the expense of the customer;
- less stress: bargaining and the procedure for concluding a transaction are reduced to a concise minimum of the level of purchase in the store: select the product and put it in the basket;
- less overpayment: by publicly announcing the price, the freelancer brings it as close as possible to how much this service should actually cost. Accordingly, the risks are reduced that a freelancer will break the price above a market for a particular customer, which can easily happen when ordering a rare or new service for a customer;
- new ideas come up: to know what you need, of course, is good, but studying the assortment of services at Quark is not only an entertaining process, but also useful - the Original section is especially good : besides the thoughts “what do people not make money on”, there you can get a couple of ideas for developing or promoting your own projects.
Having glanced at what only people do not earn, you begin to look at your resources in a new way
Another undocumented feature of Quark: any customer can find in it a way to make money on their own. Surely, you, a successful reader, already have a good job. But even highly paid specialists do not disdain to earn, say, by consulting - there simply is usually no time and desire to search for a clientele. But there is no quark on the site - I did it, I set the price, and I forgot. Or, let’s say, with its help you can turn the hobbies of your loved ones into earnings - you never know. I know examples of businesses that grew out of part-time wives who outgrew the businesses of their husbands. And Quark may well be the place to start it. One of the amazing effects of Quark is that when you walk around the site and see what people don’t earn money from, it sometimes seems that they literally make money from the air, and you start looking at your resources in a new way.
There are really a lot of offers on the site - more than you would expect from a resource launched only in November. The project successfully implemented the resources of the parent company Mirafox , which owns the Copylancer freelancer project (just an example of that freelance that there aren’t enough stars from the sky), link exchanges and SEO articles.
Seochny roots are not something to be proud of on a site like Megamind, but the fact remains: it worked. From the project, which is four months old, you absolutely do not expect such a riot of colors in stock. The choice is such that the eyes run wide, and the apparent accessibility (remember - all quarts of 500 rubles each) includes weekend hypermarket syndrome: I want to run between the rows with the trolley and throw everything inside. Now about 1100 quarts per week are already being drawn up at Quark.
Of course, this is not a panacea for the problems of the Russian, and indeed any freelance. And cranks in different letters are found among those offering their services at the Quark. But still, there is a pleasant feeling that clear frameworks and rules simplify life and discipline - the main thing is to keep in mind that just living people still sit inside the framework.
This reminds me of the story of Uber, which took the private carriage market (freelancers) and, using a single platform and clear rules, made a kind of taxi out of it, occupying a niche between bombers that can be caught with a wave of your hand and individual taxis (which are located in this analogies can be given to outsourcing companies). One of the side effects of this success was that Uber itself began to be perceived as a taxi service, which they vehemently deny, stressing that they are just a platform. Perhaps Kwork has every chance from the side to seem like something single and monolithic, like Uber - i.e. not just a site full of gypsies pulling fingers to your wallets, but an organization with a large staff of remote employees. Which may not even consider freelance as their primary occupation, and from time to time to do understandable work at understandable prices - just like the Uber drivers, who sometimes only give them a couple of hours a day after work. This means that the demand for Quark and the quality of the services sold on it will be different - the project will need to carefully monitor feedback and work with performers. Uber, by the way, in this sense is doing well - they train their drivers well with a plus. Cope with this Kwork - and can become a "Uber" for freelance. At least in the ru zone. in this sense, everything is fine - they train their drivers well with a plus. Cope with this Kwork - and can become a "Uber" for freelance. At least in the ru zone. in this sense, everything is fine - they train their drivers well with a plus. Cope with this Kwork - and can become a "Uber" for freelance. At least in the ru zone.
Quark “Message on the girl’s shirt” for 500 rubles