July 24, 2017 at 16:21FIAS is dead, long live ... long live ... yes it’s not clear what for now
To date, the situation in the field of logistics and related e-commerce is rather unattractive. On the one hand, of course, the Russian Post is to blame for everything, then the DPD , SDEK , Yandex.Delivery, individual couriers and, of course, the State Department - well, where would it be without him. The problem, in my opinion, is more fundamental in nature, having a trajectory of a peak with Hochma along the route. How to write the address correctly? Where to get the zip code and who goes where. Where does the Mail deliver, where do the DPD and SDEK get on dogs? And here, let's understand.
The main problem is called this: "But the devil knows what country we live in." On the one hand, in December 2014, imperceptibly, after the adoption of the Government Decree, a fundamental change took place due to the fact that now the municipal address is officially the postal address (the language does not allow calling this address). His motorcade is insane both in its tautology and its complexity, erasing the boundaries of understanding villages and villages. The reason is simple: the Federal Tax Service decided that in the absence of a law on the postal address and administrative division, let's use the municipal principle. They, of course, up to this point could be understood. Well, what difference does it make to them - well, they don’t have the tasks of geographical, administrative, postal, etc. division. Purely internal request. And everything would be so until they introduced it into the rank of postal address by resolution.
This is on the one hand. On the other hand, business practice has already taken shape, and again, it is objectively understandable why, that KLADR was used as a reference , and the Russian Post did not have its own reference. In general, everyone was hooked under an exclusively departmental directory - KLADR. And while this corresponded to the state of things in the understanding of an ordinary person who lives in the Moscow region, the city of Troitsk. And God bless him, that the Federal Tax Service did not have time to track the migration of post offices. An error of 5 percent is completely apologizing for the useful work that the Federal Tax Service voluntarily took upon itself. Well, she added a new FIAS format , continuing to lead parallel to KLADR. Russian Post at this time was preparing its TsKhDPAand the population was expecting the Post to publish it sooner or later. Well, there was still hope that the Rosreestr would be born. But there is also no concern for the needs of the working people. For there is nothing to use third-party experts, the money itself is not enough. In general, the base can be reduced this way and they still cannot. They waited for it to blow again.
For all attempts on our part to combine the efforts of independent logistics companies and create an independent directory, for example, under the auspices of the NADT , it was unsuccessful. Everyone was sorry for the money, for their own, and the address base would be common.
But ... everything went wrong, and the situation has changed dramatically. The Federal Tax Service transferred the administration of KLADR / FIAS to the subsidiary organization Tax Service. There, everyone was brought to complete absurdity. They killed positioning, replacing it with hierarchy. They abandoned the administrative division, as a result of which Lenin Avenue in Moscow turned from a single object into a bunch of segments in which it is impossible to understand in Moscow whether it is already a satellite city, and indeed whether it is connected to each other. Completely lost the history of changes and much more.
And then various ideas such as words3word began to arise, the use of geo-coordinates directly, etc. It would seem the 21st century in the yard. What is the problem? But she is. And there are many of them:
1. How to retrain all people to write coordinate words, just coordinates? Do not everyone remember addresses?
2. What is considered the standard? Is it possible to use false data collected by projects such as OSM or Yandex? Which, by the way, recently involuntarily changed the address landscape. It can be seen by some programmer in Yandex that it wasn’t cool to use fractions and he applied 21_2 to the cards instead of 21/2. And the valiant municipal authorities have announced a tender for printing plates on houses. Where did the valiant contractors get the data? Of course, not from Rosreestr, but from Yandex cards. The introduction of regulation returns this project from free to sovereign - all of them to the starting point.
3. What about legally and financially significant correspondence? How to guarantee its delivery on dubious standards or coordinates?
4. To what accuracy should the coordinates be brought and how to understand that the point has been reached? To what number should the coordinates be indicated after the decimal point? How long does a postman have to go with a GPS navigator going to a target like a fighter?
5. Any tech. the process at the Russian Post or any logistics company should be based on the possibility of the absence of an Internet computer in any area. Therefore, the address should be intuitive. This, by the way, is one of the claims to FIAS.
6. What to do with new buildings that in half cases border on self-construction such as high-rise buildings in summer cottages, numbered as a plot 1 entrance 2 floor 3. Although in reality these are 2 multi-storey buildings on a plot of 30 acres? Well, not to mention the real self-building in the southern reaches of our homeland?
Outlets, in general, are not very many.
First, the Federal Tax Service does not have to wait for a return of consciousness. If only because it is an internal departmental development, although it was brought out by a Government Decree into a general headache. The analysis of this decision is a separate topic of the article. For example, how many know that addressing in national languages is allowed in it, absurd types such as “construction” are introduced, letters in Latin are allowed (how to distinguish P and P?), Etc.
The second, with the hope of waiting for the Post to publish the TsKhDPA. That's just the question: does she need it? Loan to support her competitors? In this case, I would think in place of the Russian Post. There remains only someone like Yandek, who will receive a “label” from the state and become something like an “authorized agent” with the federal budget. But again, the rules have not been canceled, and who will do them ....? And will not the houses appear again with underlining? And besides, one must understand that addresses are not only a place on the map with coordinates, floors, apartments, but elements of social communication, verbal exchange! information, parts of business and trade turnover. This is the cultural layer in the end ...
In the meantime, download the next version of FIAS and ... do not install it. We are writing parsers to the mail site in the hope of deflating at least some kind of zip code update from there. And, yes, our copters are all - delivery by coordinates, in the hope that they will not fly into the next window from the nursery or a circle of young technicians on the ground floor, a package with whiskey or something more interesting. And children, children know how to catch and open it ...
The main problem is called this: "But the devil knows what country we live in." On the one hand, in December 2014, imperceptibly, after the adoption of the Government Decree, a fundamental change took place due to the fact that now the municipal address is officially the postal address (the language does not allow calling this address). His motorcade is insane both in its tautology and its complexity, erasing the boundaries of understanding villages and villages. The reason is simple: the Federal Tax Service decided that in the absence of a law on the postal address and administrative division, let's use the municipal principle. They, of course, up to this point could be understood. Well, what difference does it make to them - well, they don’t have the tasks of geographical, administrative, postal, etc. division. Purely internal request. And everything would be so until they introduced it into the rank of postal address by resolution.
This is on the one hand. On the other hand, business practice has already taken shape, and again, it is objectively understandable why, that KLADR was used as a reference , and the Russian Post did not have its own reference. In general, everyone was hooked under an exclusively departmental directory - KLADR. And while this corresponded to the state of things in the understanding of an ordinary person who lives in the Moscow region, the city of Troitsk. And God bless him, that the Federal Tax Service did not have time to track the migration of post offices. An error of 5 percent is completely apologizing for the useful work that the Federal Tax Service voluntarily took upon itself. Well, she added a new FIAS format , continuing to lead parallel to KLADR. Russian Post at this time was preparing its TsKhDPAand the population was expecting the Post to publish it sooner or later. Well, there was still hope that the Rosreestr would be born. But there is also no concern for the needs of the working people. For there is nothing to use third-party experts, the money itself is not enough. In general, the base can be reduced this way and they still cannot. They waited for it to blow again.
For all attempts on our part to combine the efforts of independent logistics companies and create an independent directory, for example, under the auspices of the NADT , it was unsuccessful. Everyone was sorry for the money, for their own, and the address base would be common.
But ... everything went wrong, and the situation has changed dramatically. The Federal Tax Service transferred the administration of KLADR / FIAS to the subsidiary organization Tax Service. There, everyone was brought to complete absurdity. They killed positioning, replacing it with hierarchy. They abandoned the administrative division, as a result of which Lenin Avenue in Moscow turned from a single object into a bunch of segments in which it is impossible to understand in Moscow whether it is already a satellite city, and indeed whether it is connected to each other. Completely lost the history of changes and much more.
And then various ideas such as words3word began to arise, the use of geo-coordinates directly, etc. It would seem the 21st century in the yard. What is the problem? But she is. And there are many of them:
1. How to retrain all people to write coordinate words, just coordinates? Do not everyone remember addresses?
2. What is considered the standard? Is it possible to use false data collected by projects such as OSM or Yandex? Which, by the way, recently involuntarily changed the address landscape. It can be seen by some programmer in Yandex that it wasn’t cool to use fractions and he applied 21_2 to the cards instead of 21/2. And the valiant municipal authorities have announced a tender for printing plates on houses. Where did the valiant contractors get the data? Of course, not from Rosreestr, but from Yandex cards. The introduction of regulation returns this project from free to sovereign - all of them to the starting point.
3. What about legally and financially significant correspondence? How to guarantee its delivery on dubious standards or coordinates?
4. To what accuracy should the coordinates be brought and how to understand that the point has been reached? To what number should the coordinates be indicated after the decimal point? How long does a postman have to go with a GPS navigator going to a target like a fighter?
5. Any tech. the process at the Russian Post or any logistics company should be based on the possibility of the absence of an Internet computer in any area. Therefore, the address should be intuitive. This, by the way, is one of the claims to FIAS.
6. What to do with new buildings that in half cases border on self-construction such as high-rise buildings in summer cottages, numbered as a plot 1 entrance 2 floor 3. Although in reality these are 2 multi-storey buildings on a plot of 30 acres? Well, not to mention the real self-building in the southern reaches of our homeland?
Outlets, in general, are not very many.
First, the Federal Tax Service does not have to wait for a return of consciousness. If only because it is an internal departmental development, although it was brought out by a Government Decree into a general headache. The analysis of this decision is a separate topic of the article. For example, how many know that addressing in national languages is allowed in it, absurd types such as “construction” are introduced, letters in Latin are allowed (how to distinguish P and P?), Etc.
The second, with the hope of waiting for the Post to publish the TsKhDPA. That's just the question: does she need it? Loan to support her competitors? In this case, I would think in place of the Russian Post. There remains only someone like Yandek, who will receive a “label” from the state and become something like an “authorized agent” with the federal budget. But again, the rules have not been canceled, and who will do them ....? And will not the houses appear again with underlining? And besides, one must understand that addresses are not only a place on the map with coordinates, floors, apartments, but elements of social communication, verbal exchange! information, parts of business and trade turnover. This is the cultural layer in the end ...
In the meantime, download the next version of FIAS and ... do not install it. We are writing parsers to the mail site in the hope of deflating at least some kind of zip code update from there. And, yes, our copters are all - delivery by coordinates, in the hope that they will not fly into the next window from the nursery or a circle of young technicians on the ground floor, a package with whiskey or something more interesting. And children, children know how to catch and open it ...