April 16, 2010 at 15:22Carry a mobile phone in your pocket - CAN!
A week and a half ago, I asked the habro-people to ask questions about the radiation of mobile phones ( this post ), since I turned out to be the leader of the round table devoted to the problems of electromagnetic radiation. The round table was a success, following the discussion I made a video, but, since not everything was included in it, I decided to write another post.
Here is the same video, there are answers to key questions (Habr insider!), This is a cut. In general, the round table lasted several hours and ended in debate.
Under the cut - my somewhat messy notes, a synopsis of what was discussed at the round table. I was recording right at the table on the podium :)
The main thing that was announced right away: electromagnetic fields are HARMFUL forms of radiation. Mobile communication uses electromagnetic fields and, in theory, should be normalized. Obviously, now the majority of “non-professionals” are in conditions characteristic of the conditions of professional study. In general, all those who work with EMR pass prof.med. selection, annual medical examination, their health under the supervision of doctors continuously.
Now the circle of those who are considered “professionals” is not outlined. According to the law, if more than 50% of working hours a person works under the influence of a harmful factor, he must be referred to as “pests” (a funny medical term). It was proposed to introduce the profession of “cell phone user” :)
Historical background
The first studies began in the 50s, people associated with radar equipment began to have health problems, occupational diseases arose, this gave an impetus to the start of research.
The second stage is the end of the 60s and the beginning of the 70s, when powerful radar centers appeared. Then hygiene standards were developed, a commission was created together with the Americans, the purpose of which was to develop common standards. San.norms were released in the 2000s, but they are based on the program that was in the mid-80s, i.e. does not take into account the specifics of cell phones. By 2005, it was planned to completely replace hygienic regulation, but so far this has not happened.
Another interesting point: it turns out that the gap in sanitary standards between the United States and Russia is huge, by two orders of magnitude, and mobile phones are produced in accordance with American standards. “Their” radiation standards do not correspond to “ours”, we are much tougher. So, in Russia for the population the radiation standard is 10 microwatts per square centimeter, in the USA - 1000, and it has recently been reduced from 10.000.
Over time, the development of diseases that were observed in "professionals" is possible. This is the position of the World Health Organization: two years ago a press conference was held in Berlin, where the following data were published: in Europe, 10% of the population associates health deterioration with cellular communication. In our country, there are no such statistics so far, but visits to doctors for similar indications are increasing. The main thing is to establish an objective relationship between cellular communications and health. There are many health complaints that may be associated with cellular networks in Russia, but they are not being studied. There is even such a concept as “situational stress”, there is a possible factor of poor health, but a person cannot measure and feel it.
The most ambitious and well-built experiments were held at the Burnazyan Center in 1997, they should be repeated now, but the research equipment was lost due to the transition from analog to digital equipment. Nobody wants to fund such research. Moreover, those studies were published, but for some reason there is little about them in RuNet. The experiments were carried out in real time, with the involvement of volunteers, and authorized cell phones were used. Then the effect of changes in the bioelectric activity of the brain was recorded. It turned out that the human body begins to respond 30 seconds after turning on the cell phone. Observations continued for half an hour with each volunteer, using both analog standard telephones (NMT) and digital telephones (CDMA, GSM). The experiment was repeated, repeated, within a month the experiments were repeated several times. It turned out that the body reacts differently to each of the standards. It was also proved that with a single exposure, recovery occurs, but the question of what happens in chronic use is still open.
Enormous amounts of money are allocated abroad by governments of various countries; there are centers in Sweden, England, Germany, Canada, Italy, France, Japan, and China. In Russia, only a small group of scientists in the center of Burnazyan and several scientists in other institutions of the country deal with these issues.
In total, 33 works related to the study of EMR of cellular phones have been released in the world at the moment. However, as all the speakers said, the significance of such experiments is close to zero: they were all carried out with a single irradiation exposure.
In addition, all studies were conducted on adults (of course!), And it is children who are at greater risk. When children grow up, they have a unique vulnerability. As for studies of the influence of cellular networks on children's health, there were only two works (in Germany), but during the experiments there was not even a control group. Here, in Russia, research has been conducted at the Lyceum in Khimki for four years, scientists are studying changes in cognitive functions, and children are constantly being interviewed.
Most scientists believe that excessive use of a mobile phone by a child can lead to deviations in the functions of higher nervous activity, this is partially proved by observations in the city of Khimki. In addition, children have a thinner bone, a larger dose goes to the brain, and absorption occurs according to a completely different principle than in an adult. In addition to problems with the nervous system and deterioration of cognitive functions, there is such a complex disease as a salivary gland tumor, which is almost not treated. Also, except for children, the risk zone also includes the category of radiosensitive people who need everyone to move somewhere to an uninhabited island, because waves in the city will find them everywhere.
As for the effect on sexual activity, most scientists are inclined to believe that when you carry the phone in your pocket, nothing bad happens, the radiation does not have a big effect on the genitals. Although work was discussed in Norway two years ago, where serious changes were described, for some reason our scientists criticized it severely. They say that sperm are restored :)
Here I finish on such an optimistic note :)
PS if someone has problems with Rutube and the video is not visible - you can watch it on Nomobile.ru website here
Here is the same video, there are answers to key questions (Habr insider!), This is a cut. In general, the round table lasted several hours and ended in debate.
Under the cut - my somewhat messy notes, a synopsis of what was discussed at the round table. I was recording right at the table on the podium :)
The main thing that was announced right away: electromagnetic fields are HARMFUL forms of radiation. Mobile communication uses electromagnetic fields and, in theory, should be normalized. Obviously, now the majority of “non-professionals” are in conditions characteristic of the conditions of professional study. In general, all those who work with EMR pass prof.med. selection, annual medical examination, their health under the supervision of doctors continuously.
Now the circle of those who are considered “professionals” is not outlined. According to the law, if more than 50% of working hours a person works under the influence of a harmful factor, he must be referred to as “pests” (a funny medical term). It was proposed to introduce the profession of “cell phone user” :)
Historical background
The first studies began in the 50s, people associated with radar equipment began to have health problems, occupational diseases arose, this gave an impetus to the start of research.
The second stage is the end of the 60s and the beginning of the 70s, when powerful radar centers appeared. Then hygiene standards were developed, a commission was created together with the Americans, the purpose of which was to develop common standards. San.norms were released in the 2000s, but they are based on the program that was in the mid-80s, i.e. does not take into account the specifics of cell phones. By 2005, it was planned to completely replace hygienic regulation, but so far this has not happened.
Another interesting point: it turns out that the gap in sanitary standards between the United States and Russia is huge, by two orders of magnitude, and mobile phones are produced in accordance with American standards. “Their” radiation standards do not correspond to “ours”, we are much tougher. So, in Russia for the population the radiation standard is 10 microwatts per square centimeter, in the USA - 1000, and it has recently been reduced from 10.000.
Over time, the development of diseases that were observed in "professionals" is possible. This is the position of the World Health Organization: two years ago a press conference was held in Berlin, where the following data were published: in Europe, 10% of the population associates health deterioration with cellular communication. In our country, there are no such statistics so far, but visits to doctors for similar indications are increasing. The main thing is to establish an objective relationship between cellular communications and health. There are many health complaints that may be associated with cellular networks in Russia, but they are not being studied. There is even such a concept as “situational stress”, there is a possible factor of poor health, but a person cannot measure and feel it.
The most ambitious and well-built experiments were held at the Burnazyan Center in 1997, they should be repeated now, but the research equipment was lost due to the transition from analog to digital equipment. Nobody wants to fund such research. Moreover, those studies were published, but for some reason there is little about them in RuNet. The experiments were carried out in real time, with the involvement of volunteers, and authorized cell phones were used. Then the effect of changes in the bioelectric activity of the brain was recorded. It turned out that the human body begins to respond 30 seconds after turning on the cell phone. Observations continued for half an hour with each volunteer, using both analog standard telephones (NMT) and digital telephones (CDMA, GSM). The experiment was repeated, repeated, within a month the experiments were repeated several times. It turned out that the body reacts differently to each of the standards. It was also proved that with a single exposure, recovery occurs, but the question of what happens in chronic use is still open.
Enormous amounts of money are allocated abroad by governments of various countries; there are centers in Sweden, England, Germany, Canada, Italy, France, Japan, and China. In Russia, only a small group of scientists in the center of Burnazyan and several scientists in other institutions of the country deal with these issues.
In total, 33 works related to the study of EMR of cellular phones have been released in the world at the moment. However, as all the speakers said, the significance of such experiments is close to zero: they were all carried out with a single irradiation exposure.
In addition, all studies were conducted on adults (of course!), And it is children who are at greater risk. When children grow up, they have a unique vulnerability. As for studies of the influence of cellular networks on children's health, there were only two works (in Germany), but during the experiments there was not even a control group. Here, in Russia, research has been conducted at the Lyceum in Khimki for four years, scientists are studying changes in cognitive functions, and children are constantly being interviewed.
Most scientists believe that excessive use of a mobile phone by a child can lead to deviations in the functions of higher nervous activity, this is partially proved by observations in the city of Khimki. In addition, children have a thinner bone, a larger dose goes to the brain, and absorption occurs according to a completely different principle than in an adult. In addition to problems with the nervous system and deterioration of cognitive functions, there is such a complex disease as a salivary gland tumor, which is almost not treated. Also, except for children, the risk zone also includes the category of radiosensitive people who need everyone to move somewhere to an uninhabited island, because waves in the city will find them everywhere.
As for the effect on sexual activity, most scientists are inclined to believe that when you carry the phone in your pocket, nothing bad happens, the radiation does not have a big effect on the genitals. Although work was discussed in Norway two years ago, where serious changes were described, for some reason our scientists criticized it severely. They say that sperm are restored :)
Here I finish on such an optimistic note :)
PS if someone has problems with Rutube and the video is not visible - you can watch it on Nomobile.ru website here