Relocation to work in Denmark

    (Continuation of a series of stories about Denmark )

    In this article I will outline my history of getting a job, getting a visa and moving to Denmark. The story is largely subjective, but does that make such stories interesting?

    About me: I’m 31 years old, I’m from Sevastopol (yes, there are more and more compatriots on Habré), I graduated from SevNTU. I have a beautiful wife and seven year old son. I am engaged in an educational project . Before moving to Denmark, we lived in Kiev for 6 years.

    Reasons for moving

    We are not “poravalitiki.” In general, we had a great life in Ukraine. Of course, we understood that many around are not sweet. One way or another, to escape from the country, grabbing a tractor, did not pull.

    The whole idea originally came from his wife, her arguments were as follows:
    1. see the world
    2. Give your son the opportunity to learn in a multilingual environment.

    The arguments are good, but completely different things convinced me:

    1. I have already been to Denmark and managed to formulate for myself the idea that this is a country of triumphant common sense. Why not go learn life from them - Peter I sent young animals to Europe to take over the experience there.
    2. The turning point was the reading of an article about the Kurenev tragedy : in 1961, the dam of the plant broke through in Kiev, and in the early March morning a 14-meter wave of mud and sand flooded an entire district of Kiev and buried thousands of people (it remained secret for a long time - letters were lustrated, Soviet planes flew around tragedy, and so on). I thought that then Chernobyl happened, and now on the nose is the ubiquitously predictable breakthrough of the dam of the Kiev Sea, already very decrepit ( here more on this topic). The reason for all these technological disasters, I believe, is poor management, and since we still have no glimpses in this matter, I decided to wait a little longer for at least a few years. You can consider me paranoid, and thank God that I was wrong this year, butis he really wrong?
    3. in the Scandinavian countries everyone speaks English. Like us, they learn it from elementary school, but, unlike us, they also use it, therefore it can be explained to everyone (even to the homeless).

    At some point, I even had a choice between Denmark and England, but, firstly, Denmark seemed to me some more active, technological. Secondly, a Danish visa allowed traveling freely throughout Europe, and an English visa only through the United Kingdom.

    Visa Issues

    The company where I worked before made me an offer to move to Copenhagen. I have already established myself well at that time, and Europeans, as you probably noticed, it is important to discuss working ideas on the spot, and not via Skype.

    The proposal was as follows:
    • I was voiced the salary and about the amount that will remain after taxes. About the money below.
    • the company paid for the entire visa application process, including me and my wife and son,
    • also paid for the flight and transportation of things,
    • Of course, I had to pay for the accommodation myself, but they promised to help in finding a home (this is a problem, also below)

    The chef sent me a pre-filled form; I entered my data in it, reported on top of more waste paper and passed it to the visa center. A temporary visa for 90 days was given after 3 weeks. The money came out 315 UAH ($ 40) to the visa center and 2112 UAH ($ 260) to the Danish consulate for each person.

    The ease of obtaining a visa was due to the fact that programmers are included in the so-called white list - a list of professions whose representatives are welcome in this country. In addition to engineers, there are doctors and teachers. " Our pratsa is beautiful, and people need her ." To get into the white list, you need to attach a diploma in the profession (at least 3 years of study) - this was the first time in my life when I really needed a “crust”.

    In addition, obtaining a visa and a residence permit is easier for those who have a high level of salary. Information: a salary higher than 31,200 kroons is considered high, and the minimum salary of web developers is just a little higher than this figure.

    My wife and son applied for a visa when I was already in Denmark, and here the confusion began. Their documents were constantly lost. On the one hand, the wife called the Ukrainian embassy (they already memorized our surname and recognized the wife by voice), for my part I pulled the Danes. The embassies exchange visa documents by e-mail, and they sent and received immediately 2 files (packages of documents for the wife and son) from them only the third time, and each time after the next attempt they had to wait a couple of weeks. This process took 4 months with constant calls from us.

    As I said, a temporary visa is issued for 90 days - just a stamp in the passport. In addition, I was given a document stating my taxpayer code - an omnipotent ID in Denmark, as it turned out.

    Within a certain period of time (also about 3 months), you need to contact the Ministry of Integration in Denmark, where you are fingerprinted and take a biometric photo, and in a few weeks you will receive a “Dane card” by mail. Now for four years you are a temporary immigrant and expat.

    Salary, taxes

    I will not do Finstrip, but you can find out the average salary by profession on JobIndex : enter “webudvikler” (“web developer”) in the search bar and you will see such a picture. You can try to adjust age, experience and location - everything is like on a DOW .

    Figure 1 - Average salaries of web developers in Denmark

    Taxes are paid immediately at an approximate, high rate (I had 38%). Everything is paid by itself, I just get money into the account (I understand that we have an accountant, but I personally do nothing to pay taxes). After the New Year, the SKAT tax office recounts the funds received and makes tax refunds, the amount of which can be immediately viewed on the website. I didn’t really roll my lip and didn’t look anywhere, although at work many people discussed it tightly. I was very surprised when in March I was dripped about half of my monthly salary from above.

    Transportation of things

    While I was in Denmark, my family members loaded our belongings (things, books - of course, no furniture) into a dozen cardboard boxes, transported Novaya Pochta from Kiev to Sevastopol, and there TNT left Germany for Copenhagen through Germany.

    For money, Sevastopol-Copenhagen came out somewhere around € 320.

    It took about a week. I got a call from the courier service, and we agreed when I was at home. When I came home from work, there was already a large wooden pallet at the entrance, and on it were our boxes wrapped tightly in film. Surprisingly, everything was in place - such orders. For half an hour I dragged things into the apartment.


    Those who are looking for housing with us know: the task of the Russian realtor is to create a stir. “We have a lot of people who want this apartment, so let's decide soon.” Our posts are covered with “Rent cheap” ads.

    In Denmark, the opposite is true: apartments leave in an hour, and they really have a turn. It looks like this: there are special real estate sites where owners post advertisements for housing (I assume that it’s free). Those who wish to leave a request on the site. After some time, we realized that the owners stupidly ignore us and do not call back. Then we bought a paid subscription (something about $ 20 per quarter), and we began to see the direct phone number of the owner, and I began to call. At the other end of the line, I usually had a voicemail waiting for me, and I would give out a memorized text drawn up with the help of my colleagues: I was advised to mention where I came from and what my family composition was, and also that I have work in Copenhagen. Some said that they surrender to foreigners more readily, while others vice versa. Anyway, I started looking for an apartment in July,

    At the same time, it doesn’t matter at all whether the apartment is far from the center, to the metro, for 5 minutes or 15. In my opinion, this is due to the fact that wealth is distributed evenly here. As my friend Sergei Komar said, "you are leaving for Copenhagen - and everywhere they have little Copenhagen." Everywhere there are bike paths, parks, benches; purely. The only thing that, in my opinion, can greatly affect the price is the sea view. What is more interesting, the Nazis did not bomb Denmark, so the new buildings are quoted on a par with the houses of the late XIX century.

    For the first 2 months, my company found me an apartment, then I lived in DanHostel in a room with 5-7 tourists and tourists changing every day. In Europe, June-July is the time for graduates to travel, so it was fun. For 3 weeks I did not lose anything, although I went out for a walk every evening and left the MacBook under my pillow. Once, next to Aksyonov’s book, a note was waiting for me: " Russian, who are you? You come when we are already sleeping, and leave while we are still sleeping ." That was cute.

    Hostel in the city center cost 150 CZK per day ($ 30) in a room for 8 people, 170 CZK in a room for six. In any case, it is not as scary as it seems - the beds are bunk, there is no stable feeling, on the contrary, everyone has a holiday mood. The hostel has a kitchen, wifi, washing machine. For a month, a little more than 5,000 crowns ($ 1,000) came out - upon arrival you have to buy an annual card for their network and a set of bed linen. Highly recommend DanHostel is one of the best; require a corner room on floors 11-14, you will not regret it. He is very centrally located.

    Figure 2 - view from the DanHostel window on the center of Copenhagen.

    I also rented a private room in Frederiksberg (a good area) for 5500 ($ 1100). All the apartment options that we looked at were about 8,000 crowns ($ 1,380) - but these were either small kopecks, or far away, or not Feng Shui at all. We rented a freshly renovated apartment the size of our three-ruble apartment in Amager (a good coastal area) without bargaining for 10,000 kroons ($ 1,700). Amager (in Danish simply “Ama”) has always attracted me with its proximity to the sea and modern Danish architecture, so although it’s a little expensive, we like it.

    Figure 3 - Amager District: Amager Strand Beach with a view of the windmills

    Figure 4 - Amager District: ITU University's famous student residence (elite even for locals)

    Figure 5 - Amager District: same dormitory, inside view

    the Internet

    We filed an application to connect to the Fullrate provider before the New Year, and they connected us in mid-January. Monthly fee is 199 kroons ($ 34). We also charged 99 kroons for some equipment and 299 kroons for connection once, but the wifi router was proudly declared free.

    The shield is located directly in the apartment - there are also water supply valves and a telephone socket through which the Internet is distributed. When connecting, the adjuster did not enter the apartment, but did everything somehow on the distributor below, in the basement. The router came in the mail as promised, so we inserted the plug into the socket and that's it.


    Obviously, my seven-year-old son does not know Danish, so he cannot go to school. We tried to get into a Russian school at the Russian embassy, ​​but there is a very limited number of places that go to the children of consuls and Aeroflot employees. In addition, I thought that moving abroad, but studying in a Russian school - is somehow strange. We have other tasks - to adopt local experience, so we began to consider local options.

    We went to school in our area. The courteous Turkish director explained what to do: first, the son needs to go to a special preparatory school for 1-2 years, where he will learn Danish in a playful way with other immigrant children. Then, if the knowledge of the language reaches the desired level, he will be able to go to school at the place of residence.

    There are one or two preparatory schools in the city. To solve for us, the parents, the issue of logistics and the safety of children, children are taken by taxi from home to school. This is a very, well, very expensive pleasure the commune pays for - the district administration, a mixture of the district committee and the housing office, only adequate. It looks like this: every morning at exactly 7:27 a local taxi — a new Mercedes with an Indian driver — drives up to our house as a standard type; the taxi has never been late for a year. At 8 o’clock, the son is at school, at one o’clock in the afternoon, teachers sit them in cars. Having brought the child home, the taxi driver waits until we show off the balcony and wave to him, saying that we are at home, everything is okay.

    My son has 6 people in the class: in addition to my Rusak - Japanese Sanksan, Hindu Obischak, Somali Negil Obilache, Pole Demien and Arab Mohamed. The teacher is Turkish, in a scarf, does not know English, only Turkish and Danish; she is polite, but strict, her son really likes her.

    This is a big stress for the child - because they do not have a common language, only body language and common sense. A lot of strange situations when children cry from resentment, because at their age everything is not clear in life, plus they cannot express it in words. Therefore, often, while we wait for a taxi, we tell our son that we understand how difficult it is for him, but we are proud of what he does - and I see that this fills him with new forces. Six months later, he already began to communicate tolerably - playing with the locals in our backyard.

    There are many rumors on the subject of Scandinavian education. I want to understand its differences from ours, but for now I can say that children are taught not so much in encyclopedic facts as in independence and communication skills.

    My wife went to a parent's meeting. Parents entered the director’s office one at a time, where the director, teacher and translator from the language spoken by the parent were waiting for them.

    Payments per child

    Some official information. The amount of payments depends on the age of the child. You get a fixed amount for each child.

    The numbers for 2013 are as follows:
    • 0-2 year old child: DKK 4,299 per quarter
    • 3-6 years: CZK 3402 per quarter
    • 7-14 years: CZK 2679 per quarter
    • 15-17 years: CZK 893 per month.

    There is also a multiplier depending on the length of your stay in the country:
    • from 6 months - you are paid 25% of this amount,
    • after 1 year - 50%,
    • after 1.5 years - 75%,
    • after 2 years - 100%.

    This is called the accrual principle, which applies to foreigners working in Denmark.

    The medicine

    I have a dissonance from local medicine, which can be expressed as follows: it’s more profitable to get cancer than to catch a runny nose. Will explain.

    In Denmark there are 2 layers of medical care: let's call them the Front Front and Real Medicine, respectively.

    The Front Front is a doctor to whom you go with any questions: it hurts, itches, it bothers. These therapists are very calm people, and the main answer: "It will pass by itself." Well, they can recommend drinking more tea (while the Danes look at you with all their eyes if you put raspberry jam in tea). Seriously, one gets the feeling that the task of the Front Front is to prevent you from accessing Real Medicine; this seems to save taxpayers so much. At the same time, their competence leaves much to be desired - for someone, the doctor, making an injection, sneezed in the palm of her hand, did not wash her hands and did not rub the injection site with alcohol, for some the doctors treated the allergic rash as simple acne, for some the child had a cold 4 weeks (they went to 3 doctors, listened to “it will pass” and it seems they found a Russian specialist).

    Figure 6 - Front Front. Reception

    You are assigned to a specific doctor in the community. There is a list of doctors for each district, and you can choose the one you like. Most often, only one question is asked in the commune: “What gender would you like a doctor for?” When this delicate issue is resolved, a honey card comes in the mail. service - it must be presented at the registry.

    Figure 7 - medical card

    But Real Medicine is white coats and the latest equipment.

    An interesting point. At the reception, they tell you how to get to the right office like this: “Follow the green line on the floor” - 5-6 colored lines diverge from the counter. On the floor there is a vending machine with free coffee, paintings.

    Figure 8 - Clinic

    The Danes are a seasoned people. They wear T-shirts when we wear throat sweaters. I heard about kindergartens, where children in any weather sleep all year round at a quiet hour in the fresh air - of course, wrapped up and under a canopy, but still cool.

    Do not think that I mention casually - work

    The place of work is indicated on the “Dane card”. If you quit this place, you must notify the relevant authority within 2 days (at least by email), and then you will be given six months to find a new job.

    They work mainly from 9 to 17, after 17 people actively disperse home. Half an hour for lunch. Lunch delivery to the office is widespread: 50% is paid by the employee himself, the rest is paid by the company.

    Discussions are held in English, but every Dane will consider it his duty to tell you how great it would be if you started learning their language.

    The Danes are somewhat nationalists, and they firmly believe that Danish developers are the best. I believe that the issue of nationality has little effect on professional skills.

    When we were looking for developers, and I sorted out the submitted resumes, there was a lot of garbage. I remember the most vivid resume for the position of PHP developer: "the last place to work is a hotel cleaner. Front of work: hotel rooms, hall, corridors, conference room, banquet room ." It seems that this is due to the fact that people who are comfortable sitting on the allowance are required to send a few resumes a month for a tick, and that's what they send anyhow.

    Happiness at work

    It is interesting how the words in a particular language convey the spiritual values ​​of its speakers.

    Wikipedia says that in Japanese there is the word " karoshi " meaning death at work from overwork. I heard that when Asian hard workers want to protest, they work twice as much.

    Not so in Denmark. At work, it should be good and pleasant to work. They call this the special word “arbejdsglæde” (“arbaide”, as you know, “work”, and “glæde” - tracing paper of the English word “glad”, I mean joy). Unlike the Greeks, whom pleasure led to economic problems , the Vikings use endorphins to increase productivity.

    Figure 9 - happiness at work as I saw him. In addition to the joystick and dogs in the cockpit, he also has a cigar and music.

    So that foreigners can imbue the spirit of this idea, a special site What the heck is arbejdsglaede !? . Look, there is a minimalistic video about what it is and how it is achieved.

    As a result, I’ll say: abroad, of course, it’s good, but as soon as my project in Denmark comes to its logical conclusion, I plan to return with my whole family to live home in the Ukrainian expanses - it’s better here. Why? Read the following article, Denmark. Comparative characteristics".

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