November 13, 2011 at 15:59Fear has big eyes, or cloning a HDD with MAC OS and Win XP in a classroom
Good day to all!
In this article I will talk about how I tried to “make friends” MAC OS and Win XP on a single macmini and extend this union to 12 similar computers of the computer science class in a secondary special educational institution (college).
To be honest, the article was conceived rather not to describe the technical side of the issue (because on this part on the Internet you can find everything in parts and put it together), but in order for novice system administrators, enikei or computer science teachers in educational institutions similar on me, they found everything in one place, without being distracted from the educational process. Well, and once again to highlight some of the problems in the field of IT in our educational institutions.
By education, I ... a biologist. And although I have never worked in my specialty, this fact greatly affects my “career” and the approach to fulfilling my duties. Performing, by and large, the functions of enikey, and comforting myself with the sweet thought that I am a “system administrator”, I work in a forestry college as a kind of “electronic engineer”. Such a bet.
There are about 120 cars in the college, partly integrated into a peer-to-peer network (I hope that I will raise the domain anyway, but so far it hasn’t gone beyond talking about it and the director’s verbal consent, because it’s very difficult to explain to different deputies, accountants and economists, for what it is needed, but these are, rather, my problems, not theirs). There are 5 computer classes. One of these classes is equipped with macmini computers.
Before working in college, I had never seen macmini, I didn’t use mac os, and I only heard about apple that it was “expensive”, “high quality” and “not enough in Russia”. But thank God that I had some experience working with linux. By that time, I transferred my home PC and laptop to ubuntu, a little “rummaged” about FreeNAS and Debian. And most importantly, after meeting linux, I FULLY reviewed my attitude to warez software, Microsoft policy and educating the younger generation in these conditions ...
I will describe the class:
3 new PCs with a 7-port option on i3 / 2GB / 500GB, 1 old PC with an XP version, and 13 macmini, on one of which
XP "beast edition" and a shabby accidentally poppy partition, and on the 12 remaining in all the beauty of Windows Vista, "business edition", which was installed in parallel with the MAC OS X "snow leopard" using bootcamp, but in fact it is the only system on this computer. Although it seems to be licensed, the activation “flies” after the update (I did not go into it here). With all this, everything is virus-infected, something is constantly not working, the kids are breaking something (they tear off a button, for example, from a wonderful aluminum keyboard ...), once white little boxes are covered with a layer of dirt ... To my question, “but why not use licensed software from apple, instead of ... mmm ... THIS? ", I received the answer that" there is nothing to understand, "" there is no Photoshop, office, matkad "and so on and so forth.
Sad In my opinion, quite. And since these poppies were donated to the college according to some program, no one has a clue how much it all costs and how many people dream about it (even though I'm not an apple fan myself).
In general, I soon received the task that "everything worked, it did not slow down, and everywhere everything was the same." And since, to solve the problem globally (replace the MS office with open or libre, look for analogues for the MAK OS of other software, it is desirable to “open source”, because there is naturally no money for the license), I’m still reluctant made a decision, using Perumovsky “the principle of lesser evil”, to take the path of XP + MAK OS.
1) A “reference” computer was configured. To do this, I did the following:
- I completely updated the "snow leopard" on one of the machines
- I demolished the whist section completely (the step, in principle, is not necessary, I just planned to put XP on the virtual machine "inside" the poppy first)
- Using the Boot camp Assistant created a section for windows and installed Windows XP using this manual.
By the way, it says that you only needthe original disk with win XP sp2 or older, and that different assemblies and multi-boot disks a la "beast" will not work. It should be noted that, yes, at the very beginning, when a partition is created using the wizard, the Assistant simply does not “see” the multidisk, but although I did not check, if you install the original first, then you can replace it with any assembly . But, again, these are just guesses.
- Updated XP sp2 to the current state, set up accounts, installed the necessary software
- Then the search began for how to clone all this to other poppies. my mistake was that I was only looking for Mac utilities for this purpose. He killed a lot of time, but did not achieve a result. For example, Carbon copy clonerrefused to write the partition image from XP to an external screw (apparently due to the fact that it had the NTFS file system), etc. And so, when I was completely desperate, I decided, just for fun, to try the good old Clonezilla . Why didn’t I immediately use it? Apparently, because I'm a biologist by education ... For some reason I thought that since this is not a real bios and this is poppy wasps, then ... In general, clonzilla did everything perfectly. Fast and tidy.
- Well, all that remains is to change NetBIOS names, IP and all that jazz.
I must say that for a very long time I was going to do something with this, I rummaged in Google, I thought that how. But I was disturbed by some fear of an unknown Apple product. And the solution to the problem took only one day off, on which I decided to go to work for free. Once again, I realized that in order to do something - you need to start doing!
I hope that this experience will serve such biologist-sysadmins like me.
PS
I hope that soon I will be able to change the situation in college. I plan to conduct some educational work with colleagues on the topic of STR and piracy, introduce libre office and thunderbird instead of the office and The Bat MCs, reorganize the college’s IT infrastructure itself, and raise the domain. An electronic application system and a portal with news, instructions, etc. are already working in full swing. inside the network.
Well, and once again I express my deepest gratitude and respect to all the open source developer, and in particular, Clonezilla!
__________________________________________________________________________________________
1) From a Mongi user using the dd utility
2) Using Winclone (I came across it when I couldn’t use clonzilla due to the fact that the CD drive didn’t work on one of the makmini) I
did this:
- Installed Winclone on a working machine
- Using it, I made an image of the boot camp partition
- I copied the resulting image to an external hdd (formatted in Mac OS Extended Journaled )
- Installed Winclone on a target machine with an inoperative drive
- I restored the boot camp partition by selecting an image from an external hdd (by the way, what the size of the bootkamp partition on the target machine was larger than that on the original, nor AK did not affect the result)
3) Well, if you raise the server with clonezilla, you can also clone disks and partitions using a network boot rather than a drive
In this article I will talk about how I tried to “make friends” MAC OS and Win XP on a single macmini and extend this union to 12 similar computers of the computer science class in a secondary special educational institution (college).
"Only the song is not about that ..."
To be honest, the article was conceived rather not to describe the technical side of the issue (because on this part on the Internet you can find everything in parts and put it together), but in order for novice system administrators, enikei or computer science teachers in educational institutions similar on me, they found everything in one place, without being distracted from the educational process. Well, and once again to highlight some of the problems in the field of IT in our educational institutions.
Background
By education, I ... a biologist. And although I have never worked in my specialty, this fact greatly affects my “career” and the approach to fulfilling my duties. Performing, by and large, the functions of enikey, and comforting myself with the sweet thought that I am a “system administrator”, I work in a forestry college as a kind of “electronic engineer”. Such a bet.
There are about 120 cars in the college, partly integrated into a peer-to-peer network (I hope that I will raise the domain anyway, but so far it hasn’t gone beyond talking about it and the director’s verbal consent, because it’s very difficult to explain to different deputies, accountants and economists, for what it is needed, but these are, rather, my problems, not theirs). There are 5 computer classes. One of these classes is equipped with macmini computers.
Before working in college, I had never seen macmini, I didn’t use mac os, and I only heard about apple that it was “expensive”, “high quality” and “not enough in Russia”. But thank God that I had some experience working with linux. By that time, I transferred my home PC and laptop to ubuntu, a little “rummaged” about FreeNAS and Debian. And most importantly, after meeting linux, I FULLY reviewed my attitude to warez software, Microsoft policy and educating the younger generation in these conditions ...
There is no sadder story in the world than whistily deceived children ...
I will describe the class:
3 new PCs with a 7-port option on i3 / 2GB / 500GB, 1 old PC with an XP version, and 13 macmini, on one of which
XP "beast edition" and a shabby accidentally poppy partition, and on the 12 remaining in all the beauty of Windows Vista, "business edition", which was installed in parallel with the MAC OS X "snow leopard" using bootcamp, but in fact it is the only system on this computer. Although it seems to be licensed, the activation “flies” after the update (I did not go into it here). With all this, everything is virus-infected, something is constantly not working, the kids are breaking something (they tear off a button, for example, from a wonderful aluminum keyboard ...), once white little boxes are covered with a layer of dirt ... To my question, “but why not use licensed software from apple, instead of ... mmm ... THIS? ", I received the answer that" there is nothing to understand, "" there is no Photoshop, office, matkad "and so on and so forth.
Sad In my opinion, quite. And since these poppies were donated to the college according to some program, no one has a clue how much it all costs and how many people dream about it (even though I'm not an apple fan myself).
In general, I soon received the task that "everything worked, it did not slow down, and everywhere everything was the same." And since, to solve the problem globally (replace the MS office with open or libre, look for analogues for the MAK OS of other software, it is desirable to “open source”, because there is naturally no money for the license), I’m still reluctant made a decision, using Perumovsky “the principle of lesser evil”, to take the path of XP + MAK OS.
Implementation
1) A “reference” computer was configured. To do this, I did the following:
- I completely updated the "snow leopard" on one of the machines
- I demolished the whist section completely (the step, in principle, is not necessary, I just planned to put XP on the virtual machine "inside" the poppy first)
- Using the Boot camp Assistant created a section for windows and installed Windows XP using this manual.
By the way, it says that you only needthe original disk with win XP sp2 or older, and that different assemblies and multi-boot disks a la "beast" will not work. It should be noted that, yes, at the very beginning, when a partition is created using the wizard, the Assistant simply does not “see” the multidisk, but although I did not check, if you install the original first, then you can replace it with any assembly . But, again, these are just guesses.
- Updated XP sp2 to the current state, set up accounts, installed the necessary software
- Then the search began for how to clone all this to other poppies. my mistake was that I was only looking for Mac utilities for this purpose. He killed a lot of time, but did not achieve a result. For example, Carbon copy clonerrefused to write the partition image from XP to an external screw (apparently due to the fact that it had the NTFS file system), etc. And so, when I was completely desperate, I decided, just for fun, to try the good old Clonezilla . Why didn’t I immediately use it? Apparently, because I'm a biologist by education ... For some reason I thought that since this is not a real bios and this is poppy wasps, then ... In general, clonzilla did everything perfectly. Fast and tidy.
- Well, all that remains is to change NetBIOS names, IP and all that jazz.
Conclusion
I must say that for a very long time I was going to do something with this, I rummaged in Google, I thought that how. But I was disturbed by some fear of an unknown Apple product. And the solution to the problem took only one day off, on which I decided to go to work for free. Once again, I realized that in order to do something - you need to start doing!
I hope that this experience will serve such biologist-sysadmins like me.
PS
I hope that soon I will be able to change the situation in college. I plan to conduct some educational work with colleagues on the topic of STR and piracy, introduce libre office and thunderbird instead of the office and The Bat MCs, reorganize the college’s IT infrastructure itself, and raise the domain. An electronic application system and a portal with news, instructions, etc. are already working in full swing. inside the network.
Well, and once again I express my deepest gratitude and respect to all the open source developer, and in particular, Clonezilla!
__________________________________________________________________________________________
After writing the article, more options appeared:
1) From a Mongi user using the dd utility
2) Using Winclone (I came across it when I couldn’t use clonzilla due to the fact that the CD drive didn’t work on one of the makmini) I
did this:
- Installed Winclone on a working machine
- Using it, I made an image of the boot camp partition
- I copied the resulting image to an external hdd (formatted in Mac OS Extended Journaled )
- Installed Winclone on a target machine with an inoperative drive
- I restored the boot camp partition by selecting an image from an external hdd (by the way, what the size of the bootkamp partition on the target machine was larger than that on the original, nor AK did not affect the result)
3) Well, if you raise the server with clonezilla, you can also clone disks and partitions using a network boot rather than a drive