October 6, 2010 at 20:53Apartments for rent and information bases
It will be about "information databases", which over the past half year have become very widespread in Kiev on the rental apartment market.
This is a fun scam method worth mentioning.
If you are going to look for an apartment in Kiev or are just curious - please, under cat.
Most of the advertisements under which the agencies' telephones are located are written on behalf of private individuals with the mark “do not disturb intermediaries”.
For example, like this:
or so
If you look closely, you will find a common mobile phone number.
Ads from www.first-realty.com.ua
Or say this:
Newspaper Aviso.
The site of this newspaper. A fascinating announcement from the last issue.
aviso.ua
In the current “information bases” are marked (both the site and the newspaper), which is good news.
The cost of apartments in such advertisements ranging between “strangely cheap, it doesn’t happen” and “it’s quite normal, you have to call before you rent it.
If you make a phone call to such a base, they will explain to you that you will first conclude a contract with them, and only then can you see the apartment. And also what they work before settling and that usually all-all-all populate on the first day. Nobody complained. Everyone is happy. And no 50% of the monthly payment to a real estate agency. (Yes, in Kiev, the standard cost of their services is 50% of the monthly cost, not 100). The cost of the “service” ranges from 150 to 200 hryvnia (600-800 rubles). Seductive?
If you come to the address indicated by the agent, you will see the room, the only furniture is the agent’s table / chair and a chair for you. On the table is a laptop, contracts and a mountain of mobile phones (which, sometimes, are hidden in the table, so as not to annoy others). Utilitarian. Nothing extra. Apparently settling in is not advisable.
Then they suggest you sign an agreement. For doubters, they will say the mobile number you are interested in. You call. And they will answer you. Whatever you doubt. But people are workers. So specifically, towards the end of the working day, you will agree. Practice shows that the phone works for several days, after which the sim card is discarded. To get through it is better to change the numbers. And, of course, no one will come to meet you.
Well, no, on the street. An arsenal of people who will rent an apartment for 2500 + utilities, if he can pass it for 4000 + utilities. As the most average option. Even if it is a bomber.
Now in more detail about the contract: technically, this is just the whole contract for the provision of access to the database of apartments for a period of 30 days.
Such for example:
www.arenda-kvartir.net.ua
Doubters of course I am sure that this is just a website is available in 30 days and they work before arrival. The agreement, however, does not provide for such a thing. It has nothing to do with settlement at all.
Below is the verbatim text of this, in some places quite funny, document.
In parting, they will tell you that everyone is very happy with them and will print a couple of pages of addresses / phones from the site. With the usual, however, prices.
Everything is very clear. No "populations". Only a mediocre base of addresses. Many of which are very real. But not cheaper than the usual level. Although there is no payment for the services of a realtor, yes. Unless, of course, you can find at least something decent.
Many of these agents have the same base. Only the "muzzle" of the site is different.
If you try to complain ... they will politely offer you to pick up an apartment and name a couple of apartments on the outskirts. Even for the same 2500. But in that area - sorry, no more. They are not to blame for the fact that the announcement was made by an unscrupulous investor.
Still not happy? Read the contract. We are doing it. No one promised you a fairy tale.
That's all.
What is the scam? The fact that they lure customers with non-existent ads with prices that do not correspond to reality. For half a year, the scheme of work has not changed.
I hope this little article will benefit someone and save you from mistakes.
Do not get it wrong - this is not an advertisement for real estate agencies. They have their own “features”, which are plentiful.
Nobody rents an apartment up to $ 500 near metro Pecherskaya?
Or at least just in the central areas, half an hour on foot from the subway?
This is a fun scam method worth mentioning.
If you are going to look for an apartment in Kiev or are just curious - please, under cat.
Most of the advertisements under which the agencies' telephones are located are written on behalf of private individuals with the mark “do not disturb intermediaries”.
For example, like this:
Kiev
Address: Curls
Furniture, appliances, tile, balcony, separate bathroom, washing machine avtomatff
$ 270
Name: Natalya
Coordinates: 0669229248 417-50-91
or so
Kiev
Address: st. Kudri
Rent 1 room apartment, tv, furniture, cold, furniture
220 $
Name: Oleg
Coordinates: 0631372770 0669229248
If you look closely, you will find a common mobile phone number.
Ads from www.first-realty.com.ua
Or say this:
Arsenalnaya St., TV, good condition, for a long term, 2500 UAH. Information base. (63) 1510224, mob. (66) 2637148
Newspaper Aviso.
Arsenalnaya Str., TV, good condition, furniture, fridge, for a long term, cheap.
Tel .: (63) 1510224, mob., (66) 2637148, mob.
The site of this newspaper. A fascinating announcement from the last issue.
aviso.ua
In the current “information bases” are marked (both the site and the newspaper), which is good news.
The cost of apartments in such advertisements ranging between “strangely cheap, it doesn’t happen” and “it’s quite normal, you have to call before you rent it.
If you make a phone call to such a base, they will explain to you that you will first conclude a contract with them, and only then can you see the apartment. And also what they work before settling and that usually all-all-all populate on the first day. Nobody complained. Everyone is happy. And no 50% of the monthly payment to a real estate agency. (Yes, in Kiev, the standard cost of their services is 50% of the monthly cost, not 100). The cost of the “service” ranges from 150 to 200 hryvnia (600-800 rubles). Seductive?
If you come to the address indicated by the agent, you will see the room, the only furniture is the agent’s table / chair and a chair for you. On the table is a laptop, contracts and a mountain of mobile phones (which, sometimes, are hidden in the table, so as not to annoy others). Utilitarian. Nothing extra. Apparently settling in is not advisable.
Then they suggest you sign an agreement. For doubters, they will say the mobile number you are interested in. You call. And they will answer you. Whatever you doubt. But people are workers. So specifically, towards the end of the working day, you will agree. Practice shows that the phone works for several days, after which the sim card is discarded. To get through it is better to change the numbers. And, of course, no one will come to meet you.
Well, no, on the street. An arsenal of people who will rent an apartment for 2500 + utilities, if he can pass it for 4000 + utilities. As the most average option. Even if it is a bomber.
Now in more detail about the contract: technically, this is just the whole contract for the provision of access to the database of apartments for a period of 30 days.
Such for example:
www.arenda-kvartir.net.ua
Doubters of course I am sure that this is just a website is available in 30 days and they work before arrival. The agreement, however, does not provide for such a thing. It has nothing to do with settlement at all.
Below is the verbatim text of this, in some places quite funny, document.
Real Estate Information Analytical Center No. 1
- A large database of real estate without intermediaries
- Direct telephone numbers and addresses of owners
- Updating databases online 4 times a day from (9-10) from (12-13) from (15-16) from (18-19) out. Sunday
Agreement on providing access to databases on rental real estate in Kiev and the region
Date
Name
Contractor (Agent's signature) Customer (Your signature)
1 - The site administration is obliged to provide daily updates to information packages (real estate databases) in the city of Kiev and the region on website www.arenda-kvartir.net.ua
2 - Access is opened for the duration of the contract on one computer and one browser, for example, registering with Opera means you can watch on the same browser.
3 - Access to the database is provided for 30 days.
4 - The cost of the service of opening access is 170 one hundred seventy hryvnias.
5 - This contract is concluded for 30 days. Enters into force upon signature. Payment for services is made on the day the transaction is concluded. The amount paid is non-refundable.Real Estate Information Analytical Center No. 1
Access is being opened as a guarantee service for the possibility of selecting other options even after settlement. (There are various options that did not get along with the owners, neighbors, perhaps the living conditions do not correspond to the preliminary agreement or decided to rent the property more expensive or cheaper) in general, you have the opportunity to choose the options you are interested in. The Contractor is not responsible for the actions of a third party. The owners are solely liable for the property to be rented (rental)
1.2 The customer receives a login on the website www.arenda-kvartir.net.ua and reports on successful registration by phone 0637163849 (Administration)
1.3. Access for the duration of the contract is opened on one computer and, for example, one browser registered in the Internet explorer means you can watch the database on the same browser.
1.4 Act of completion. Access to the site. Your login. (Your signature)
In parting, they will tell you that everyone is very happy with them and will print a couple of pages of addresses / phones from the site. With the usual, however, prices.
Everything is very clear. No "populations". Only a mediocre base of addresses. Many of which are very real. But not cheaper than the usual level. Although there is no payment for the services of a realtor, yes. Unless, of course, you can find at least something decent.
Many of these agents have the same base. Only the "muzzle" of the site is different.
If you try to complain ... they will politely offer you to pick up an apartment and name a couple of apartments on the outskirts. Even for the same 2500. But in that area - sorry, no more. They are not to blame for the fact that the announcement was made by an unscrupulous investor.
Still not happy? Read the contract. We are doing it. No one promised you a fairy tale.
That's all.
What is the scam? The fact that they lure customers with non-existent ads with prices that do not correspond to reality. For half a year, the scheme of work has not changed.
I hope this little article will benefit someone and save you from mistakes.
Do not get it wrong - this is not an advertisement for real estate agencies. They have their own “features”, which are plentiful.
As an advertisement:
Nobody rents an apartment up to $ 500 near metro Pecherskaya?
Or at least just in the central areas, half an hour on foot from the subway?