Why banned Google or "wanted the best, but it turned out as always"

    Perhaps I agree, global censorship is not needed - in this I was wrong.
    Which opinion is correct - time will tell, but you shouldn’t limit it by force (since negative consequences have not yet been proved).

    Instead of prohibiting information, it is necessary to demand its usefulness if bias can lead to victims.
    In other words, at a minimum, harm must always be reported.

    Everything is cleaned under cat.
    But I’ll note a couple of points:
    1) There is an interesting logic for those who disagree - they doubt the unproven harm to children from such sites, but they are absolutely sure of the same abstract “accustoming everyone to Internet censorship” (although this law did not introduce censorship - it is already a long time ago -long).

    2) I spoke not so much about censorship as about other things, in particular technical ones.
    Who wants to read, welcome.



    Habr is out of politics , but it seems that "the mountain itself came to Mohammed."

    If you let things take their course, freedom of expression, guaranteed by the Constitution of Russia , sooner or later actually be threatened.
    As I understand it, it is already being violated by blocking information not prohibited by law , albeit by mistake.

    What is the problem, brothers IT-shnik? We have democracy  - the power of the people - do not forget about it.

    It’s not the programmers who sit in the Duma - it’s pointless to complain “do well, but I don’t know how” to the deputies and the President, they will not find the answer.
    So, people should help - you need to look for a solution, and it is IT specialists who can do this.

    Where, if not on the largest IT site on the Runet, is it possible to solve the problem so that there is no reason to complain?
    So that, in the end, it was possible to propose a solution of the people to the country's leadership.

    A small analysis of the situation.

    Even before the law “On the Protection of Children from Information Harmful to Their Health and Development" (adopted back in 2010) came into force , a court decision could block materials prohibited for distribution on the territory of the Russian Federation.
    Materials recognized as extremist ( extremism  - commitment to extreme views and measures and not ready to agree) are officially and openly indicated on the corresponding list of the Ministry of Justice of the Russian Federation .

    On September 1 of this year, a law came into force prohibiting the dissemination of information among children that could harm the "health and (or) physical, mental, spiritual, moral development" of children, including pornography.

    Notice among the children  - and here I agree: unlike adults, at first the children just learn what they see. We all begin to analyze events and decide whether to act correctly or not, based on previous experience  - what we already know at some point.
    Almost completely, a person forms his consciousness only to adulthood.

    If a childsaw that “the girl became sad and she jumped out of the window” or how the children gouged out a dart (a very real example from the Japanese “cartoon”), this will be a pattern of behavior that he will remember.
    If the child is told that he lives in a terrible country where nothing good is possible, he will think so.

    Of course, this will not be the only source of information, and the child will eventually receive a more or less correct education.
    But the information that we receive in childhood is remembered most strongly.
    Based on it, we make further decisions.
    And I hope your children do not watch today's crime series.

    No matter how corny it sounds, but parents should watch the children first.
    It is with them that the child is closest, and if they do not teach him good, he will “teach life”, but this is the big question.

    I support the restriction of children's access to content that can teach them inhuman behavior.
    Note, the psychiatrist also does not object to such a law.

    The age limit is not new and has long been applied in most countries , including Russia.
    It is used for legally regulated access to information - watching movies in a movie theater, buying games, etc.

    On the Internet, if desired, any information is available completely uncontrollably for all ages: the general availability of any information is its feature.

    We are now very clumsy tried to counteract this.
    That is, within Russia to remove certain information from open access that does not require special knowledge (using Tor, I2P, VPN, etc.).

    Those who want to find such information - they will find it anyway.
    On Habré people are literate, and no one, I hope, doubts that.

    They tried to introduce restrictions specifically for the mass user who does not need limited information constantly.

    And here the question arises - how was this done?


    A small chronology of events.
    On September 18, they tried to block the video on YouTube  - instead, the provider banned YouTube in its entirety, then another provider did the same , and then they simply ordered to block the “user access to Internet resources” communication services , which was done  - all over YouTube.
    Also tried to block and VKontakte  - again, all.

    Everyone laughed and said "PR film."
    But these were only the “first signs” of the fact that something would go wrong.
    There was another “bell”: “infogr.am” was completely undeservedly distributedlocated on the same IP as another officially blocked resource.
    And one more thing : because of one article, they tried to ban access to the entire Wikipedia.
    It was funny, yes.

    And, finally, on November 1 of this year, the Unified Register was launched , which allows "to identify sites on the Internet containing information the distribution of which is prohibited in the Russian Federation."

    And “thunder struck”: in a row several well-known websites of the Runet were blocked ( 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 ).
    And finally, epic banned Google.

    Of course, blocking information,not banned , caused a logical outrage.

    We realized that not all providers are able to cut out individual content and block the entire site - almost immediately.
    They began to seriously ask questions .

    Now let's see what solutions began to be proposed:
    - learn to bypass the Great Russian Firewall ;
    - bypass the firewall again ;
    - quickly make a mirror of the site , "saving" it from blocking;
    - partially go to I2P ;
    - register the site as a media.

    The problem now is that the useful content is limited.
    In the meantime, they decided how to provide access to the useless blocked.

    Meanwhile, the show continues, and events develop quite quickly: they close DC ++ networks , and in the meantime, the Duma proposes to prohibit anonymizing , to prohibit children from accessing public Wi-Fi and to “ allow ” providers to use DPI (which, in fact, no one forbade ), but "in the absence of technical ability" is still blocked by IP .

    I emphasize once again that it is about protecting children .
    By the way, we were one of the first to raise this issue regarding the Internet.
    True, do you really dream that porn and murder scenes are freely available at every turn?

    The technical implementation is not even lame yet, and in half of the cases it is simply absent.
    If it is possible to find a solution, you need to find it, which I suggest trying to do.
    Or to say that this is impossible in principle.

    PS Take the situation seriously.

    UPD: For those who believe that freedom of speech is being oppressed in Russia, I clarify: habrahabr.ru/post/159385/#comment_5469813

    Hiding the truth is harmful.
    And trying to remove the lies presenting these things as good.


    The oppression of freedom of speech in blocking normal, useful content.
    Think again.

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